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Old January 18th, 2010, 05:51 PM
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Angry Pull Hook - Help!!

Hi,

I used to have a severe slice but now have developed a horrible pull hook!!

Is this just a question of timing with hand release?

I use a strong grip and have done since I started and nothing has changed with my alignment etc.

Have you guys out there any ideas for a fix for this?

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Steve
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Old January 18th, 2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Try moving the ball back in your stance. Use a more lofted club to compensate. You should stop pulling the ball and regain your slice in no time.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 07:05 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Hi,

I dont want the slice back!!...just want to be able to play the shot of choice ie; either a draw or fade?

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Old January 18th, 2010, 07:43 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Sorry for the attempt at humor. A severe slice is no laughing matter.

It is difficult to pull the ball when the ball is back in your stance. Give that a try. With a strong grip you will hopefully not regain that slice.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:05 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Strong grip promotes a hook so you need to neutralise it, also make sure you are not standing with a closed stance from your slicing days.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 02:15 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

One of the two lessons I've had in over 60 years of playing was to fix exactly the problem you have. The "duck hook" was so bad thru all of my clubs that I could start a ball to the right of the green with a full 9iron and land in the left bunker. I went to my club's PGA Teaching Pro and he saw what I was doing in two swings. Then he had me start to hit the ball using his method and spend 30 days on the practice range perfecting a slight fade drive while keeping a gentle draw with the rest of the sticks. I don't remember everything from that day, but he did have me weaken the grip of my right hand and slow down my swing. You might try these last two things and if they don't help, a few bucks spent with a teaching pro could be well worth it. Anyway, as one who's been there, I hope you find a fix for that hook.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 03:06 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

You are probably swinging outside to in, part of the problem causing your slice, and your stronger grip is shutting the club face down. Work on swinging square to the target line, approaching it from the inside, instead of outside, before you get too excited about a grip change.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 07:36 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Try loosening up your shoulders before you swing. You might have changed your stance and posture due to the purchase of a new car. If you have bought a new car recently, then, this may be contributing to your grip. ( Only you know this,,,) If you are not driving a new car, then, are your Golf Shoes new? Changes such as this, however subtle, can affect your game.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 07:55 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

concur with some of the postings above and i think one key thing to focus on--not necessarily a short term project though, possibly the most important realization--is your swing plane.

when your swing plane is off, your wrists tend to become overactive. then depending on whether at impact the clubface is open or closed, you can spray your shots all over.

go back to basics. whenever you can. swings change all the time, even if at one point you think you have it down.

for instance, i videotape my kids whenever they play and then show them the slow mo play back. naked eyes sometimes play tricks on us if the shot is straight, but no necessarily good.

what i mean specifically, is in-square contact-in plane. if you have had slicing problem, that means in all probability that your swing plane has issues. everyone has to go through this stage and many of us have to revisit once in a while. come down inside is not that natural of a move. it takes quite a bit of work to get it down as a routine.

so, suggestion at this moment: videotape yourself and show it to advanced players or teachers.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 08:30 PM
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Try loosening up your shoulders before you swing. You might have changed your stance and posture due to the purchase of a new car. If you have bought a new car recently, then, this may be contributing to your grip. ( Only you know this,,,) If you are not driving a new car, then, are your Golf Shoes new? Changes such as this, however subtle, can affect your game.
Good luck!
Thanks SusieQ. I have a tee time with three pirates in the morning. I will be using my older car, take a few clubs off my wall of shame, and wear a loose pair of shoes. They're toast

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Old January 20th, 2010, 02:31 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Hello Steve,

I used to have the same issue as you and I also have a very strong grip. Let me ask you something, when you take a swing, even in your practice swings, do you sometimes see or feel like your clubhead through the swing and follow through getting closer to your body on a path to your left (if you are righty golfer)? In other words, you could actually see the swing path while you swing go outside to inside at attack and follow through. I found the best way to correct this was to focus on your back swing. I found that I needed to get a wider and deeper shoulder and hip turn. I found especially late in rounds, I would sometimes get a little tired and lazy and wasn't getting as much of a shoulder turn. As a result my swing path got thrown off and I would hit a lot straight pulls. So in your back swing, focus on completely turning your back to the target, keep that left arm straight and get a good deep shoulder turn and see if that helps. Let me know if you try this and if it works, good luck!


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Hi,

I used to have a severe slice but now have developed a horrible pull hook!!

Is this just a question of timing with hand release?

I use a strong grip and have done since I started and nothing has changed with my alignment etc.

Have you guys out there any ideas for a fix for this?

Thanx

Steve
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Old January 25th, 2010, 04:29 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

SusieQ!

Please post more your so funny.
However you forgot the change in weight due to wearing a new watch turning his hands over through impact. LOL!

Best golf related laugh in ages. So funny. (don't be upset please.)
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Old January 25th, 2010, 05:07 PM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

Pull hook is a result of your strong grip. Move your bottom hand more to the left to where you can see two knuckles and that should help. Get a bucket at the range and start with your normal grip that your hitting the hooks with, slowly start weakening your grip and hitting balls. You should see the ball start going starighter and straighter. Strong grip will result in your club face coming into the ball closed. Your grip is one of the main factors in ball flight.
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Pull hook is a result of your strong grip. Move your bottom hand more to the left to where you can see two knuckles and that should help. Get a bucket at the range and start with your normal grip that your hitting the hooks with, slowly start weakening your grip and hitting balls. You should see the ball start going starighter and straighter. Strong grip will result in your club face coming into the ball closed. Your grip is one of the main factors in ball flight.
I do not get upset easily!

I have had external factors affect my golf game in the past. For example, If I decide to wear my 3 inch Black Gucci pumps to dinner, and then hit an early morning round of Golf, I am going to have a bad game. If my mascara drips into my eyes when the sun gets too hot, my aim is going to be waaaay off. I do agree with your advice of changing up the grip. The same thing happens when
I think of something stressful when I am trying to swing....He should try carrying a flask of whiskey and nipping his way around the links.
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Old February 7th, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Re: Pull Hook - Help!!

As all have mentioned before, coming over the top with a strong grip does play a big role in creating a pull hook.

To add to that I would also work on firing your left hip (for right handed golfers) at the target in starting your down swing. Many players that have a "over the top" swing also spin out their left hip to clear the way for their arms that are swinging from outside to in. By ensuring you fire your left hip at the target will help keep your arms swinging down the target line and not cutting across it. This can also help get your weight properly shifted to your left side prior to impact which adds much greater distance to your shots.

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