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Old September 30th, 2004, 12:27 AM
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The golf's swing order of importance

Here, in order from most important to least important, is what truly makes a good golf swing.


1. believe you can do it

2. set up right, if you are not set up right then you will have to make a bad swing to produce a good shot.

3 backswing, if your backswing is not in a good position then you will almost certainly hit the ball bad.

4 transition, Cant lead with the shoulders, either the lower body or ams falling while lower body is moving.

5. Impact, if steps 1-4 are good then you will have an easy time with this one

6. follow through

Understand the TRUE order of importance in the golf swing and now you know where to start fixing your problems. You may think your problems are in the transition, impact, or follow through when in actuality they could be derived from your setup and backswing
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Old September 30th, 2004, 10:20 AM
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I think the most important fundamental which is commonly overlook is the grip. This falls under the setup category. When I first started out, I was hitting the ball over the place and didn't understand why. Only when I began to concentrate on the grip, did I get any consistency and control. From there, I took a look at stance, posture, ball position, and then swing path.
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Old October 1st, 2004, 03:56 AM
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I would like to add the elements of Balance, Relaxation, Rhythm. Without these three elements there is no 'swing'
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Old October 1st, 2004, 10:58 AM
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1. Alignment
2. Grip
3. Balance
4. Tempo
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Old October 1st, 2004, 12:44 PM
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  1. Grip
  2. Alignment
  3. Balance
  4. Tempo
  5. Faith

There, I switched the first two. I think the grip is the biggest fundamental. Oh, and I added one...
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Old October 1st, 2004, 02:00 PM
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  1. Grip
  2. Alignment
  3. Balance
  4. Tempo
  5. Faith

There, I switched the first two. I think the grip is the biggest fundamental. Oh, and I added one...
Its debatable...but you can have a great grip, but if you're aligned wrong you're not going to play well from the rough every hole. You can have a not so great grip, but be aligned right and still stick it in the short grass.
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Old October 1st, 2004, 02:10 PM
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I think that if you have a poor grip, you compensate in everything else that you do, including your alignment.

Azinger has an "unusual" grip, but it works for him. I'm not advocating a standard grip for everyone, but one that suits the swing. A poor grip leads to poor alignment as compensation.
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Old October 1st, 2004, 06:47 PM
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For me going from a high to mid handicap:
1. proper shoulder turn from the takeaway
2. weight transfer on the way down
3. changing to a neutral grip
4. think of follow-thru (the swing is too quick for me to think in stages)
5. balance

What I need to concentrate on next?
6. transition from the backswing to the downswing. My natural tendancy is to turn my shoulders (over-the-top) and to sway at the same time.
7. proper release before impact
8. drop my hands into "the slot"
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Old October 1st, 2004, 09:00 PM
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I think that if you have a poor grip, you compensate in everything else that you do, including your alignment.

Azinger has an "unusual" grip, but it works for him. I'm not advocating a standard grip for everyone, but one that suits the swing. A poor grip leads to poor alignment as compensation.

Azinger doesn't really have an "unusual" grip. Its actually a good grip, only a stronger grip than normal. But I really do not see how you reach the conclusion that a poor grip leads to poor alignment?? I can hold the club with only one hand which would be considered a poor grip, but I guarantee you that I can stil align my body straight. If you don't get lined up straight from the start, but have a great grip you're still going to hit the shot offline. But this is only my opinion.

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Old October 1st, 2004, 09:09 PM
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Azinger doesn't really have an "unusual" grip. Its actually a good grip, only a stronger grip than normal. But I really do not see how you reach the conclusion that a poor grip leads to poor alignment?? I can hold the club with only one hand which would be considered a poor grip, but I guarantee you that I can stil align my body straight. If you don't get lined up straight from the start, but have a great grip you're still going to hit the shot offline. But this is only my opinion.
His grip is unusual because it's not the usual. That's the definition. C'mon now! You said it's stronger than "normal." You agree!

A poor grip often leads to shots that head in the wrong direction, thus resulting in alignment changes as one of the means of compensation. An error in alignment may lead to a compensation in the grip. They play off of each other. However, I will continue to say that - for me at least - the grip is the first fundamental because you take your grip before you align yourself.
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Old October 1st, 2004, 09:50 PM
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I would like to add the elements of Balance, Relaxation, Rhythm. Without these three elements there is no 'swing'
I concur!!! I did not go into detail of all that goes into each category, meant to make this post as to what to focus on and in what order. Some people try to work on releasing the club when in fact they are not ready to work on that because their set up, backswing, and transition put them into a position where if they were to release the club the right way they would hit bad shots. I kind of set it up as to stages.
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Old October 2nd, 2004, 12:43 AM
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His grip is unusual because it's not the usual. That's the definition. C'mon now! You said it's stronger than "normal." You agree!
Yeah, it is stronger than normal but I was taking the word "unusual" as a grip like Steve Jones....that is unusual to me. A slightly strong grip really isn't.

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A poor grip often leads to shots that head in the wrong direction, thus resulting in alignment changes as one of the means of compensation.
Alright...I'll give it to you on this statement. You made your point to me on this one. I'll say it goes both way with grip and alignment. Not saying to won the argument, but I'll give this to you. lol.
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Old October 2nd, 2004, 01:31 AM
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Setup
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Intention
Equipment
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Old October 3rd, 2004, 08:16 PM
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1. The best swing is based on your body type and peronality. Knowing yourself is very important and working with someone that can creat the swing dynamics that suit you can be an eye opener and very freeing.

2. Knowing your grip: neutral, strong or weak. Do you use them all or is your's one or the other. This has alot to do with creating the best set up for your game and the shots you need to make.

3. Knowing what is going to work for you today. A few shots on the range can prepare you. Play the type of shot you are making that day - go with it and not fight it.

Finally, It takes a leap of faith: Stop playing golf swing and play golf.
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Old October 7th, 2004, 07:13 PM
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Yes, intention. You have to visualize the shot before you can make it.
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