That is my problem. I release the club a little early and while I can control the ball fairly well doing this I have problems because of it. I hit the ball very high, i can get a 3 iron to stop on one bounce and have no problem hitting over obstructions. I hit 3 iron about 215-220 but into a 20 mph wind i cannot get but 170. My irons go out pretty far and ballon up very high. what drills can i do to keep my hands leading the clubhead longer? I have put the ball a little farther back in my stance, through the advice of my instructor, but i need to work on the release.
... I release the club a little early .... I hit the ball very high, ... what drills can i do to keep my hands leading the clubhead longer? I have put the ball a little farther back in my stance, through the advice of my instructor, but i need to work on the release.
I am confused by your post because:
When the club is released early usualy the club is more closed causing the ball to go lower. The later the release the higher the ball travels because the club is more open.
It sounds like you have an open clubface through impact (late release) because of: an open stance or a weak grip or a concaved wrist or a combination of these.
Check for these things first and if the pro can't see it then get on video because some times the player will open the clubface at impact but no place else in the swing and the nake eye can't see it.
Last edited by glfdiva : October 21st, 2004 at 02:27 PM.
gdiva, to clarify the confusion take a ball and put it back in your stance and put your hands way ahead, you have now decreased the loft. This is what i am trying to do in the shot but not so dramatic. Now take a ball and put it forward in your stance and put your hands way behind the ball. Now you have added loft. My hands stay behind the ball through impact. I did get it on video. I play with a strong grip and a straight stance, I check my stance all the time during a round with a shaft across my thighs. Also, I do not hit a push, my normal flight pattern is straight or draw. I dont play fades much unless I try occasionally.
Hey, shootin4par...ever mess with one of these? You might even be able to make something at home to produce similar results. Really good tool to square you at impact and keep you behind the ball.
gdiva, to clarify the confusion take a ball and put it back in your stance and put your hands way ahead, you have now decreased the loft. This is what i am trying to do in the shot but not so dramatic. Now take a ball and put it forward in your stance and put your hands way behind the ball. Now you have added loft. My hands stay behind the ball through impact. I did get it on video. I play with a strong grip and a straight stance, I check my stance all the time during a round with a shaft across my thighs. Also, I do not hit a push, my normal flight pattern is straight or draw. I dont play fades much unless I try occasionally.
Thank you. Since you have a strong grip this alone should help you hit a lower and longer shot so the problem may be (I will restate) that there is a cupping of the wrists at impact or a shut to open movement through impact (often developed because of a strong grip) that is causing a higher shorter shot.
Hey, shootin4par...ever mess with one of these? You might even be able to make something at home to produce similar results. Really good tool to square you at impact and keep you behind the ball.
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thought would probably be very usefull for me. Any ideas on how to make one?
Thank you. Since you have a strong grip this alone should help you hit a lower and longer shot so the problem may be (I will restate) that there is a cupping of the wrists at impact or a shut to open movement through impact (often developed because of a strong grip) that is causing a higher shorter shot.
One drill you can work on to improve the forearm to wrist stability is to practice with a wrist watch on you leading arm. Place a 12" ruler or popsical stick under the watch so that the stick or ruler lies flat against the back of you hand and arm. This allows the wrist cock to take place and yet working on keeping the back of the wrist from cupping. When doing this you may hook the ball alot more than you would like but soon you will be able to time it and straighten the shot out.
You could use an old duffle bag or something made of canvas, like a dirty-clothes bag or something, filled with cloth rags or newspaper...main thing is that it sits tall enough to come at least a third of the way up the shaft and has a more or less straight edge for the club to contact. This tool teaches you to bring the head and the shaft down together, not one leading the other. Sort of like a drumstick when the drummer hits a rim shot, the stick hits the rim and the skin of the drumhead at the same time. Makes for very solid contact.
The answer is pretty simple. As you look down at the ball, visualize one side of the grip hitting the ball first. Do not let go of this IMAGE as you swing. If you start to hit shots to the right, check first your grip to make sure it's not too weak.. then make sure it is not the TIP of the grip which hits the ball first, but the SIDE of the grip which is striking the ball first.
The answer is pretty simple. As you look down at the ball, visualize one side of the grip hitting the ball first. Do not let go of this IMAGE as you swing. If you start to hit shots to the right, check first your grip to make sure it's not too weak.. then make sure it is not the TIP of the grip which hits the ball first, but the SIDE of the grip which is striking the ball first.
The club is the key. :nodsmiley
I know how to visualize it, i just have a problem executing it for some reason.
I know how to visualize it, i just have a problem executing it for some reason.
This may sound strange.. but quit trying. Just make some swing with the image in your mind only. No intention to force it to happen. It has been my experience that too many people loose the image in their mind because it switches to a thought. Let me give you an example, cause it's difficult to explain without one.
Draw an apple in the air with your finger.
What happened when I suggested that is, your mind grabbed an image of an apple and you held onto it.
Now draw an apple while counting how many directions your hand moves.
It got a lot harder to draw that apple didn't it.
Tie your shoes.... but make sure you don't change the grip pressure.
Makes a task a lot harder when you're thinking about something. The image is enough for you to do it.
Ringer: excellent point you made. also, i think we work so hard on our swing when we are playing and really forget what we are trying to do. just get the ball in the hole in as few strokes as possible. always trying to do something that i should probably not be trying to do, afterall, i'm not a pro-tour player,lol.
October 19th, 2004, 11:26 PM
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