I have a question for you guys.I have had a problem with a slice for a while. I recently changed my swing . Instead of coming straight up with the club face at 90" like the perfacet swing is suppost to be.I started coming more around behind me kinda like Lee Travino I guess.So it is more like a baseball swing.Anyway I can hit it straight as a arrow like this .But I can't get any distance much over 220 yrds.The range that I go to dosen't allow much roll,so it may be about 230 or so.So I went back to the over the top swing and still 220 (when it is straight!) So the swing isn't hurting my distance I don't think.My opinion is if it works for the individual player use it.But can anyone tell me how to get more distance or is this a avearge distance, or am I just a weakling?
I have a question for you guys.I have had a problem with a slice for a while. I recently changed my swing . Instead of coming straight up with the club face at 90" like the perfacet swing is suppost to be.I started coming more around behind me kinda like Lee Travino I guess.So it is more like a baseball swing.Anyway I can hit it straight as a arrow like this .But I can't get any distance much over 220 yrds.The range that I go to dosen't allow much roll,so it may be about 230 or so.So I went back to the over the top swing and still 220 (when it is straight!) So the swing isn't hurting my distance I don't think.My opinion is if it works for the individual player use it.But can anyone tell me how to get more distance or is this a avearge distance, or am I just a weakling?
you get no distance because you swing with all arms and none of the big muscles in the body. swinging around your body means that you take the club back with the arms instead of shoulders. Doing that you get no coil between shoulders and hips. Coil=power=distance
I kinda see what you are saying but it isn't all arm swing.I still come back just like before,break my wrist,and turn my hips I just swing more around instead of straight up. But like I was saying even with a perfect swing the old way I still don't out drive my new swing.If I could get about 30 or 40 more yrds. I will be fine.I haven't gotten to play a round yet so this may actuall work depending on the kind of roll I get .Like I said the range that I have been to the past couple days dosen't give much roll there is kind of a gully after about 210.So I guess I need to just try it.
It really has nothing to be with being a weakling...anyone can hit a long ball, its just technique and some skill thrown in, but if you have the right technique and understand alot of the basics with the golf swing, then the ball really has no choice but to go flying around the 250 or so marker for the average player.
Really the best thing someone can do to get rid of a slice is (IMO by the way) is either read, read, read, to find out what ever cause and effect is of differnt types of swings...or if you can afford it get lessons from a pro.
It took me forever to get rid of my fade when I was younger, but once I finally figured it out, it really wasn't that bad. Just not something that will happen over night really if you're so used to having that slice swing.
Hey there. If you're in your backswing is most of your weight on the inside of your right foot? Likewise, is it on your left foot after swinging? I figure that since you killed your slice you may be doing something right in this area.
One thing I did to get more distance: I dug out my dad's old-old-old taylor made driver. It came from the days before these huge fancy drivers they make now. I practiced with that for a while, until I could get it to go 220 or so. When I picked up my more recent driver, it was going 250 or so easily. Maybe you're looking for more distance than that, but the same thing may be useful.
Really the best thing someone can do to get rid of a slice is (IMO by the way) is either read, read, read, to find out what ever cause and effect is of differnt types of swings...or if you can afford it get lessons from a pro.
It took me forever to get rid of my fade when I was younger, but once I finally figured it out, it really wasn't that bad. Just not something that will happen over night really if you're so used to having that slice swing.
Hah, yeah, I know what you mean. I hated my old fade -- and still have it sometimes, especially with my driver. Luckily now I hit a draw with my low - mid irons, but the occasional slice still irks me. I also hit too many hooks as well, but that was a bit better last night.
However, I think this is all a moot point considering I have some of the fundamentals completely wrong.
About your comment deronsizemore, do you think just *anybody* can hit 250? Not that I am unathletic, but do you think unathletic people with absolutely no talent can do that? One of my uncles isn't athletic or talented at golf, and respectively can only drive 150 or so.
... I recently changed my swing . Instead of coming straight up with the club face at 90" like the perfacet swing is suppost to be.I started coming more around
How long have you been doing the new move?
It takes a while to see more distance. While doing this new move make sure you are contected to your center. One way to check is stop 1/4 or 1/2 way into your backswing and see if your hands are in line with your sturnum or bellybotton.
Last edited by glfdiva : December 1st, 2004 at 04:17 PM.
Hah, yeah, I know what you mean. I hated my old fade -- and still have it sometimes, especially with my driver. Luckily now I hit a draw with my low - mid irons, but the occasional slice still irks me. I also hit too many hooks as well, but that was a bit better last night.
However, I think this is all a moot point considering I have some of the fundamentals completely wrong.
About your comment deronsizemore, do you think just *anybody* can hit 250? Not that I am unathletic, but do you think unathletic people with absolutely no talent can do that? One of my uncles isn't athletic or talented at golf, and respectively can only drive 150 or so.
Sure, anyone can hit the ball 250 or more and it doesn't take much athleticsism...yes being athletic is going to help a bunch and what it comes down to is, someone athletic will have an easier time learning in the golf swing then someone who isn't athletic. For someone who isn't athletic at all, they can learn to swing the club fast and get a good distance, but its those with a lot of athletic ability who will get more out of their swing. I look at myself as being fairly athletic, If I really go after the ball I can get my swing around 125, thats it. 125 to me feels as fast as I can possibley swing a club or my technique will allow me to. But someone like Jason Zuback on the other hand, fast to him is 140 or so. I mean there are different types of athletisism too...just because Jason Zuback can swing a club that fast, doesn't mean he'll be good in other sports. Its a good indication, ut some people are made to play golf, just like others are made to play soccer, etc.
Sure, anyone can hit the ball 250 or more and it doesn't take much athleticsism...yes being athletic is going to help a bunch and what it comes down to is, someone athletic will have an easier time learning in the golf swing then someone who isn't athletic. For someone who isn't athletic at all, they can learn to swing the club fast and get a good distance, but its those with a lot of athletic ability who will get more out of their swing. I look at myself as being fairly athletic, If I really go after the ball I can get my swing around 125, thats it. 125 to me feels as fast as I can possibley swing a club or my technique will allow me to. But someone like Jason Zuback on the other hand, fast to him is 140 or so. I mean there are different types of athletisism too...just because Jason Zuback can swing a club that fast, doesn't mean he'll be good in other sports. Its a good indication, ut some people are made to play golf, just like others are made to play soccer, etc.
Completely agreed. While I consider myself to be somewhat athletic as well, I don't know what my cap is... also I believe that can be raised as well, with working out, flexibility exercises, etc.
The swing seems to come well to me, but I learned a *lot* of bad habits at first, which really messed everything up. I have to re-learn everything and stop bein so stubborn.
Firstly, all things are possible through God. Having said that, A few sessions with a good instructor and some practicing will have you hitting it well quicker than you might think.
I really don't think you've given us enough info here. Trajectory? Also, it's been suggested in other threads that you shouldn't judge your distance exclusively on the range...range balls are usually dead, no roll at the range, yardage markers may not be totally accurate, wind conditions, etc. I'd like to hear again what equipment you use. My opinion is that most golfers hit less than 250 from the tee...since most golfers barely break 100 if they were bustin' it out there 250 they'd have precious little excuse for not shooting lower scores. I'd say most, not all, would be happy with 200+ down the middle.
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Totally agree. When Annika S first came on the LPGA tour, her driving average is only 220.... why would weekend duffers (like me) need (and expect) 250 off the tee.
Golf digest did a report and indeed the average golf averages 195-200 on the tee shot. I'd bet most of these are in the right rough.
November 30th, 2004, 09:28 PM
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