I think I am guilty of using my arms on the downswing way too much and not allowing my weight to shift and clear. I find when I shift my weight instantly I get a lot more power actually.
like I said before...I think you're thinking to much. Anything you think about something as much as you're thinking you're bound for trouble. You've got to many thoughts going through your head. Its proven that your best swings come from having a clear head and really no thoughts at all...just instinct.
like I said before...I think you're thinking to much. Anything you think about something as much as you're thinking you're bound for trouble. You've got to many thoughts going through your head. Its proven that your best swings come from having a clear head and really no thoughts at all...just instinct.
I know, but I have to build a good golf swing to get the consistency and distance I want. I don't have a good golf swing now.
What does your ball do? The article has lots of info but it may not pertain to your swing mechanics. Knowledge of your ball flight is needed to custom fit advice a pro would give you to make for a better move.
in the swing speed thread shootin4par introduced the "preset" drill..... this drill is magic... this morning I tried with the driver and now it averages 230, the longest ball went 250... most importantly, I am getting the consistency I need.
It brings the swing into the correct plain and I felt I can really go after the ball.... I think for us high handicappers the first thing is getting the right the plain so that we can make consistent contact ball after ball.... then we can worry about the firing sequence and the wrist cock etc to add power later.
The best thing to do is find one thing to work on at a time though. Not 15.
You've got to get one new thougth in your head, work on it for a while until its comfortable then move on to something else you're having trouble with. You can't have 15 different things your trying on the range at once you're going to slow your progess like that. There is no magic cure for golf...you've got to put the time in that's all there is.
Really, it depends on which method you use. Hank Haney likes to initiate the downswing with a dropping of the arms. Ben Hogan didn't. That's why there are different methods and teachers that are good at teaching them.
Robert as I said previously if you want to a good book on the swing ..
"The Swing Factory" I think you can only get it from the uk.
It breaks down the swing into its component parts, lots of illustrations and also students some famouse uk personalities and just ordinary folks from 8 year olds to 80 year olds, shows how it should be at each stage, but also how it shouldn't be...
Also has drills and exercises to help form the swing.
The book is written from a golf school in London, they believe you can build a swing without ever seeing a golf course !!! They teach lots of celebs.
in the swing speed thread shootin4par introduced the "preset" drill..... this drill is magic... this morning I tried with the driver and now it averages 230, the longest ball went 250... most importantly, I am getting the consistency I need.
It brings the swing into the correct plain and I felt I can really go after the ball.... I think for us high handicappers the first thing is getting the right the plain so that we can make consistent contact ball after ball.... then we can worry about the firing sequence and the wrist cock etc to add power later.
glad this is working for you I have three drills that I will always resort back to and this is number one on that list. May not work for everyone but works for me, and sounds like you too. Also, during a round take your practice swing with the drill. Normally when we do a drill we go to the range a couple of times and then we go play. we hit the ball well at first and then through the round our swing change starts to fade away. by doing whatever drill you are working on during your round, it will not fade away but only become more ingrained
The best thing to do is find one thing to work on at a time though. Not 15.
You've got to get one new thougth in your head, work on it for a while until its comfortable then move on to something else you're having trouble with. You can't have 15 different things your trying on the range at once you're going to slow your progess like that. There is no magic cure for golf...you've got to put the time in that's all there is.
Good point. Working on too many things probably hinders more than helps your efforts. I should probably plan on focusing on weight shift, hip turn, etc., before I head out to the range.
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Really, it depends on which method you use. Hank Haney likes to initiate the downswing with a dropping of the arms. Ben Hogan didn't. That's why there are different methods and teachers that are good at teaching them.
How did Ben Hogan do it?
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What does your ball do? The article has lots of info but it may not pertain to your swing mechanics. Knowledge of your ball flight is needed to custom fit advice a pro would give you to make for a better move.
My ball flight is very inconsistent. Yesterday, it was really climbing high, but I think it was because of the breeze. My 9 iron is high, but sometimes my 5 iron is as well, etc.
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in the swing speed thread shootin4par introduced the "preset" drill..... this drill is magic... this morning I tried with the driver and now it averages 230, the longest ball went 250... most importantly, I am getting the consistency I need.
It brings the swing into the correct plain and I felt I can really go after the ball.... I think for us high handicappers the first thing is getting the right the plain so that we can make consistent contact ball after ball.... then we can worry about the firing sequence and the wrist cock etc to add power later.
I haven't actually tried hitting balls with the drill, but it seems very worthwhile. I will try it next time I am out.
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Robert as I said previously if you want to a good book on the swing ..
"The Swing Factory" I think you can only get it from the uk.
It breaks down the swing into its component parts, lots of illustrations and also students some famouse uk personalities and just ordinary folks from 8 year olds to 80 year olds, shows how it should be at each stage, but also how it shouldn't be...
Also has drills and exercises to help form the swing.
The book is written from a golf school in London, they believe you can build a swing without ever seeing a golf course !!! They teach lots of celebs.
Simon
It seems the book is only available from the UK, even from Amazon...
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Oh I start with my left knee, and keep my right arm in.
Once I've kicked my knee the hips turn and the hands start to fall naturally. If the ball is off target its my allignment or club face at setup.
Yeah, that's what most articles recommend doing, and probably instructors as well.
Assuming you have made the proper backswing and are in the proper positions, the downswing is the simplest aspect of the swing. What happens in the downswing is based on reaction and the body will do this naturally, the problem is most golfers react the wrong way at the top of the swing. This is also the hardest thing to fix; once you can correct this mistake then you are on your way to better scores. The downswing is started by a slight lateral shift left (towards the target) and an opening of the hips; this is why it is important to have some resistance in the hips on the backswing. As you open your hips, everything else will fall into place. Your right elbow will come into your side and your arms will drop down and onto plane. It should not be viewed as the hips opening then the arms falling in place; rather it should be viewed as the hips opening and the arms and elbow fall into place at the same time. The key is to allow the weight to start shifting back to the left side before this happens.
I was turned off by the first paragraph. The forward swing is the intention. Making a perfect backswing in NO WAY makes the forward swing automatic as this article seems to indicate. In fact, it's virtually the other way around. You will make a backswing based on the forward swing you intend to produce.
I was turned off by the first paragraph. The forward swing is the intention. Making a perfect backswing in NO WAY makes the forward swing automatic as this article seems to indicate. In fact, it's virtually the other way around. You will make a backswing based on the forward swing you intend to produce.
I agree, but what about with the actual mechanics that the article suggests?
"I haven't actually tried hitting balls with the drill, but it seems very worthwhile. I will try it next time I am out."
This is also part of your problem, you seem to want to TRY everything. You need to just stick with something for a while. You ask a lot of questions and give a lot of input, but you do not focus on a key thought for any amount of time. I think you spend more time on the computer trying to figure how to play golf then actually practicing. Go outside and hit wiffle balls off your grass with a six iron. make them have a draw. work on a drill in your yard. this is what you should do if you cant get to the range.
I think I am guilty of using my arms on the downswing way too much and not allowing my weight to shift and clear. I find when I shift my weight instantly I get a lot more power actually.
You are a caster, meaning you come over the top. Your instructor probably wanted you to learn how to drop your arms straight down to start the downswing. A year ago that is what my instructor wanted too. The reason is that he wants you to lean how to drop the arms while the shoulders dont move. While you may only think about dropping the arms your weight will be shifting forward at the same time. Once you get the path of your arms ingrained into your swing then you can think about starting with the hips or whatever else you think necessary. YOUR INSTRUCTOR IS SMARTERT THEN YOU THINK, THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT QUESTION HIM SO MUCH. BECAUSE OF YOUR QUESTIONIING YOU HAVE NOT PROGRESSED AS FAST AND WASTED TIME AND LESSONS. you should ask for another set of lessons for Xmas and go back to him with a SUBMISSIVE outlook
December 5th, 2004, 12:41 PM
I have three drills that I will always resort back to and this is number one on that list. May not work for everyone but works for me, and sounds like you too. Also, during a round take your practice swing with the drill. Normally when we do a drill we go to the range a couple of times and then we go play. we hit the ball well at first and then through the round our swing change starts to fade away. by doing whatever drill you are working on during your round, it will not fade away but only become more ingrained
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