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Old December 7th, 2004, 09:38 PM
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Question The X-FACTOR

what do you think of that video the x factor have anyone used it and did you get improvments?
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Old December 8th, 2004, 01:15 AM
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is that the one with the motivational guy ?

big yank fella with boof head and sounds like Goma Pile
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Old December 8th, 2004, 01:34 AM
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I have the video. Might help people if they do the drills, I have found that working on my swing mechanics, tempo, and timing works to increase distance.
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Old December 11th, 2004, 11:38 PM
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The x-factor is one of the most dangerous teachings out there. It is a bad back waiting to happen. It falls in with all of the "torque up, wind up or coil on the backswing to get more distance" teachings and has nothing to do with producing distance. It is one of the most un-scientific teachings in golf. I know Jim McClean can't believe he is still coming out with this stuff including x-factor 2.
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Old December 11th, 2004, 11:51 PM
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The x-factor is one of the most dangerous teachings out there. It is a bad back waiting to happen. It falls in with all of the "torque up, wind up or coil on the backswing to get more distance" teachings and has nothing to do with producing distance. It is one of the most un-scientific teachings in golf. I know Jim McClean can't believe he is still coming out with this stuff including x-factor 2.
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What do you believe is the primary factor in producing distance? I'm not saying whether or not I agree, just asking.
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Old December 12th, 2004, 12:01 AM
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85 % of all clubhead speed comes from the release. 10 % from the shoulders, 5 % from the legs and torso. Of course these are general per centages but pretty close.
Gary
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Old December 12th, 2004, 12:24 AM
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85 % of all clubhead speed comes from the release. 10 % from the shoulders, 5 % from the legs and torso. Of course these are general per centages but pretty close.
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Hmm, interesting. Where did you get that?
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Old December 12th, 2004, 12:31 AM
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Many scientific sources, but a comprehensive source from Jack Kuykendall.
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Old December 12th, 2004, 04:44 AM
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You don't want to see the amount of X-Factor I can create. And when I perform my max, I'm out of control by a country mile. I can't even imagine a way to make contact.
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Old December 12th, 2004, 08:23 AM
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85 % of all clubhead speed comes from the release. 10 % from the shoulders, 5 % from the legs and torso. Of course these are general per centages but pretty close.
Gary
Hi Gary,
what would you recommend to amateurs as ways to optimize or even learn how to properly release for more power...I struggle with this every day...
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Old December 12th, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Most amateurs (myself included) seem to lose distance in three ways that are kind of related:open clubface, poor swingplane maintenance, and a narrow takeaway. When I learned to widen my takeaway and deliver the club back along the same path, I saw some real gains in my distance.

:Note: I'm not a PGA pro. These are really just my observations. Golfgiva, Ringer, or JCGolfpro could give some better advice, I'm sure.
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Old December 12th, 2004, 11:34 PM
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epark99, The way I teach release is to swing waist to waist. The release is a zone that starts about waist high on the down swing and is over about waist on the follow through side. Where conventional golf is misleading in my opinion, is that on the follow through side, the back of the left hand and the palm of the right hand should face the ground (for righties). The left wrist should be flat not cupped. To feel the proper release, swing with the right hand only and you will feel the right palm snap over to the ground unless you use tension to hold it up. The left hand is the "Ben Hogan" move.
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Old December 13th, 2004, 11:48 AM
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85 % of all clubhead speed comes from the release. 10 % from the shoulders, 5 % from the legs and torso. Of course these are general per centages but pretty close.
Gary
this is misleading. if I were to take my shoulders out of the equation would I still get 90% distance? what would happen if I take my legs and torso too, would I still hit 85% as far as normal?
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Old December 13th, 2004, 01:02 PM
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shootin4par, the answer is yes to both of your questions. Although it is hard to separate the body parts you can hit ball sitting on a stool or on one foot. A lot of my teaching pro friends tell me how the power comes from the legs and hips and then show me how far they could hit while on their knees or sitting on a stool. They still don't see the contradiction. Oh well. I have swung a club by holding the grip against my belt buckle and turned my hips as fast as I could and only got 3 mph. Tiger might get 5 mph with his fast hips. I have also hit balls with a towel under both arms ala Jimmy Ballard trying to stay connected and hit the ball with hip turn and release and got about 90% distance when I hit it well.
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Old December 13th, 2004, 11:09 PM
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so then the coil a baseball pitcher produces is only good for about 15% of his speed as well? How about a tennis serve? So I can throw a baseball about 75 mph but if I stand square to my target and use no hips, legs, or shoulders I should be able to throw about 62MPH
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