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Old December 25th, 2004, 10:02 AM
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ok last year i hit the ball on the course for the very first time and it was exhilerating but after a while i saw how hard other kids were hitting it and it was not pretty. my chipping and everything is o.k but i need longer drives if i want to make my high school varsity team.......................................please help.
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Old December 25th, 2004, 11:01 PM
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vgolfer, What grade are you in? You may just need to grow and get stronger. I have coached a high school team in the past and the guys get their strength at different times, some times after high school. Work on your scoring game, make sure you have have good fundamentals in your swing, the distance will come. I know that some of the guys can pound it, but you still have to score to make the team. you should have no 3 putts when you play, chip up and one putt 8 out of ten times, and pitch up and one putt 5 out of ten times. If are not doing this you still need work on your short game.Merry Christmas!
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:33 AM
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hey gary
thanx for the tip. i am in 9th grade and dieing to make varsity what school did you teach at. i wenr golfing over the break and my score dropped like 10 strokes but i found the thing i need to work on is my puttingif you have any comments please tell me thanx again
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:32 AM
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vgolfer, I coached at Dallas Jesuit College Prep. We won 3 State Championships, a 2nd and a 3rd in the six years I coached. I had some great Guys. On putting, make a pair of rails a little wider than your putter head( 2 clubs or boards will work), line them up and practice from 3 feet. That will tell you if you are aiming correctly and if you are keeping your putter face square back and through. Next putt from 3 feet without the track and try to make 18 in a row. My record is 391 in a row. Next putt from 30 feet and try to get 18 in a row within 3 feet of the hole. My record is 82 in a row. Once you get that down you will be a great putter and can try the longer ones from 20 feet and 40 feet.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:55 AM
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you said to make rails but im not sure what you mean. i heard on the golf channel that you could set a club behind the hole about 1 foot and thenputt and then if you make it in great but if you make it between the hole and the club then youre good. the next time i check this will be in 6hours im in school now.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:55 AM
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work on short game....your distance will eventually come with good fundamentals. You don't need a lot of distance to score well either, you only THINK you do. I used to do the same thing. Example being Cory Pavin.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 12:50 PM
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work on short game....your distance will eventually come with good fundamentals.

Deronsizemore says it all, it may be hard to believe but he is correct.

I have worked at golf all my life and I remember a student of my father(PGA Member) who started competing in Jr. golf at the age of 5 came to our course at the age of 20 and said to dad "I am ready to learn how to hit it far". This man went on to earned a good leaving on the PGA tour and now is on the Senor tour.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:17 PM
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work on short game....your distance will eventually come with good fundamentals. You don't need a lot of distance to score well either, you only THINK you do. I used to do the same thing. Example being Cory Pavin.
Perhaps not to shoot par, but anything under par (unless you just birdie the par 3s) I think players with greater distance potential have an edge. For that reason, I think most, if not all, PGA pros can get to Par 5s in two now... giving them a chance for eagle. Sure, if you execute EVERY shot perfectly -- simply lacking the distance edge -- you can occasionally make those 1 putts for birdie, but it isn't as likely as if you can bomb your drive 300 yards and be in your scoring zone.

I am still on my quest for distance. My dad works out and squats/deadlifts 315 pounds I believe, and he even had to put up a fight when arm wrestling me... so I don't think it's weakness as much as it is lack of fundamentals.

I find I am too stubborn to change my swing, especially in the middle of a round -- which some might say is a good thing. However, I don't agree, especially when you're a beginner. I think you should experiment with things if something isn't working with you, until it works. I try that, but I'm still too stubborn sometimes to fully turn my shoulders until my back is facing the target. This probably leads to a lack of distance...?

Anyhow, if I knew I had the potential to hit it long and that it would just come gradually with time and development of fundamentals, I would feel much more relaxed and confident. But I have no idea if I have that potential, and that's what makes me mad.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:19 PM
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according to dave pelz the optimum speed rolls the ball 17 inches beyond the hole. So a foot or so is about right.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:20 PM
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according to dave pelz the optimum speed rolls the ball 17 inches beyond the hole. So a foot or so is about right.
Wouldn't that really depend on the speed and slope of the greens though?
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:23 PM
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Wouldn't that really depend on the speed and slope of the greens though?
No.

Think about it... on a fast putt (downhill, say), the ball doesn't have to be moving fast to get 17 inches past. On an uphill putt, it has to be going more quickly.

So, 17 inches past, regardless of the uphill/downhill or speed.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:23 PM
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No.

Think about it... on a fast putt (downhill, say), the ball doesn't have to be moving fast to get 17 inches past. On an uphill putt, it has to be going more quickly.

So, 17 inches past, regardless of the uphill/downhill or speed.
Ah... whoops. I misinterpreted that one.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 06:39 PM
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holy **** you guys talk and talk and talk and its not even about golf. so i need to work on my short game. when i do that i will get back to you on that

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Old January 3rd, 2005, 09:33 PM
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vgolfer, the rails are on each side of the hole and putter face(parallel to the target line), like the rails of a rail road track.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:20 PM
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Anyhow, if I knew I had the potential to hit it long and that it would just come gradually with time and development of fundamentals, I would feel much more relaxed and confident. But I have no idea if I have that potential, and that's what makes me mad

You do, work on fundamentals and do drills. Judging by your swing and build it will come but you have to let it and stop fighting it, but you have heard this before. The biggest block for you is between your ears
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