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Old December 27th, 2004, 06:24 PM
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It takes more effort to draw than fade no?

IMHO it seems that to fade the ball is much more natural than to draw it. For me to draw the ball I have to make a conscious effort and really remember what key things to do..whereas for a fade I'll just hit it..just a thought.
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Old December 27th, 2004, 06:32 PM
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Yeah. The fade is easier to hit because it resembles the slice most of us start golfing with.

To draw I close my stance and swing to the right-centerfield gap and to fade I open my stance and swing to the left-centerfield gap. To hit the dead ball (straight) all you have to do is miss hit one of the aforementioned.
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Old December 27th, 2004, 08:16 PM
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One of my friends can't hit a fade or a slice. He can draw and more likely hook it, though. I think it really depends on the golfer. Most golfers have a slice so they would have a tendency to fade but I really think it depends on the golfer and their natural swing.
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Old December 28th, 2004, 07:59 AM
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For me it was a lot easier to hit a fade than a draw. I play and practice nearly everyday during the summer months, I worked on hitting a draw for 3 seasons before I was comfortable hitting a draw. I'm sure it was a lot quicker for some other golfers. Hitting a fade took me much less time. Being able to work the ball either way has definately lowered my scores.
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Old December 28th, 2004, 09:05 AM
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but I really think it depends on the golfer and their natural swing.
Absolutely correct. I played with a slight draw for 10 years. 3 years ago I made some slight swing changes that left me with a consistant fade. I've played with several people with natural draws and several with natural fades. A draw is not necessarily harder to hit, it just depends on one's natural(or learned) swing tendencies.
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Old December 31st, 2004, 05:52 AM
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Well said uc8u


I could not agree more ....
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Old January 1st, 2005, 01:33 PM
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I used to have a natural slice and fade, but that was because I was coming over the top with an open clubface -- simple signs. I have corrected that somewhat, and can hit a draw now with my short and mid irons if I consciously think about a few key things; namely, extending my arms fully, rotating my forearms so they are on top of each other, approaching from the inside (dropping my hands into the "slot").

I still get some of those ugly fades (ugly IMO; I like to see draws more! ) and occasionally -- on the range -- a slice or two with my driver, but it isn't a problem anymore.

I find most of my shots actually look pretty straight now; maybe they have the slightest fade or draw, but it sure doesn't seem like it. I hit a drive yesterday and it took off exactly where I made contact, kept going in the direction of the target line, and dropped there. Pretty straight, I think.
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Old January 1st, 2005, 11:29 PM
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"The only truly straight shot is a 2-inch putt." Forget who said that... but it's kinda funny.

Good stuff robert. You're well on your way towards becoming a player, which in my book comes when you can say "10-yard draw" and hit it, then say "5-yard fade" on the next swing with the same club and hit that. (ok, that's not actually how it is in my book, but what i mean is the ability to work the ball either way to suit the conditions).
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Old January 2nd, 2005, 09:54 PM
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"The only truly straight shot is a 2-inch putt." Forget who said that... but it's kinda funny.

Good stuff robert. You're well on your way towards becoming a player, which in my book comes when you can say "10-yard draw" and hit it, then say "5-yard fade" on the next swing with the same club and hit that. (ok, that's not actually how it is in my book, but what i mean is the ability to work the ball either way to suit the conditions).
Well, I wish... but today told me otherwise. My slice mysteriously came back with my driver, and I swear, it's contagious. After a few holes, it was back on my woods sometimes, and I even sliced a 9-iron!!! Never done that before. I guess there's a time for everything, eh? Oddly though, every slice was a toe-hit, so I think that tells me something.
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Old January 2nd, 2005, 11:46 PM
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I don't think you can slice a 9-iron. Do you mean you shanked it?
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:19 PM
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I don't think you can slice a 9-iron. Do you mean you shanked it?
I am pretty sure it wasn't a shank, but maybe it was. I'm pretty sure it hit the toe, perhaps on the edge though.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:51 PM
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If you hit it thin it could slice and not go very high.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:44 PM
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If you hit it thin it could slice and not go very high.
Yeah, I think that's what I did.

My main problem is losing my spine angle. I don't think I ever maintain it. Consistency for me, at the moment, revolves upon to what extent I lose my spine angle. If I dive forward like I have a habit of doing, I dip my left shoulder (lefty) and catch the ball fat on the downswing. A common problem with me.
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:56 PM
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I'm not an instructor (plus I stink) so I can't really address your problems other than say: "stay behind the ball."

I think if you analyze your swing like this you have negative thoughts in your head when you swing. Don't focus on what you are doing wrong. Instead focus on doing what is right. That's advice from Glfdiva and she is a golf pro.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 06:45 PM
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I have always had an easier time drawing the ball. I have to really trust my swing to try and hit the fade shot.
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