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Old January 5th, 2005, 02:41 PM
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Angry shanking short pitch shots right of target

okay so i just went up to the local golf practice area and hit some shorts pitch/chip shots with my shag bag. This first bag i hit i did decent with no shanks all 40 balls with in 10 ft of the pin. then i went to hit another bag after hitting a large bucket of range balls and boom! i was shanking everything right, and on the ground with no ball flight! what has happened in 20 mins i ask myself? So i hit like 20 balls all with shanks and i quit. i feel really bad because i cant figure out what i was doing so right( at first) and now SO WRONG!!!Well i guess my question is what makes the ball shank to the right. How do i cure this? and what tips do u have when chipping 10 yards off the green? I hope you guys understand the drift of this post and any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to help me. oh and by the way im a right handed player
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Old January 5th, 2005, 03:03 PM
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Here's an earlier thread that might help.

What happend to my swing?!?

There are quite a few other threads that deal with the dreaded "s*****" too! Just hit the search tab and type in the word you want and up comes all of the threads where that word appears. Good luck!
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Old January 5th, 2005, 03:06 PM
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Shanking to the right (an actual shank) is caused by the ball hitting the hosel of the club. In you case I would simply say that 1 or 2 times you mad a mechanical error then got frustrated and started lifting your head up and continued with the shanks. try keeping your head down a little longer or if that doesn't work take 2 balls line them up like you are going to hit them. Address your club to the one farthest away from you swing back and hit the inside ball. I hope your helps nobody loves the shanks
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Old January 5th, 2005, 03:35 PM
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Shanking to the right (an actual shank) is caused by the ball hitting the hosel of the club. In you case I would simply say that 1 or 2 times you mad a mechanical error then got frustrated and started lifting your head up and continued with the shanks. try keeping your head down a little longer or if that doesn't work take 2 balls line them up like you are going to hit them. Address your club to the one farthest away from you swing back and hit the inside ball. I hope your helps nobody loves the shanks

that was it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just went out back with my 55 degree and hit some chips perfectly! today u r my hero, i was getting awfully nervous there and thought something terrible went wrong. thanks for your time valeogut and hacker1000
now i feel ok
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Old January 5th, 2005, 05:22 PM
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Shanking to the right (an actual shank) is caused by the ball hitting the hosel of the club. In you case I would simply say that 1 or 2 times you mad a mechanical error then got frustrated and started lifting your head up and continued with the shanks. try keeping your head down a little longer or if that doesn't work take 2 balls line them up like you are going to hit them. Address your club to the one farthest away from you swing back and hit the inside ball. I hope your helps nobody loves the shanks
Hacker100000 - good advice. I saw something similar in last month's Golf Magazine. As a past-shanker, I know I'm only one flat swing away from regressing. I cut out the article and put it in my golf bag.
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Old January 5th, 2005, 05:25 PM
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If you maintain your triangle formed by your arms and shoulders throughout the stroke, you also will avoid the shank that way too.

Many times a chip shot (or any other shot) is shanked due to improper grip pressure not allowing the club to close and it comes in wide open. Couple this with improper weight distribution and your hands end up closer to the ball at impact than they were at address...El Hosel...
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Not sure if this has been proved or something, maybe someone can enlighten me. But, when I hit some shanks I always make sure my club is lined up with my left arm instead of going straight out.
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Old January 5th, 2005, 08:47 PM
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I find that most shanks with chips and pitches occur when you set up too close to the ball. A lot of my students crowd the ball at address. This sounds like the problem since you hit the first balls good. You don't loose your swing in 5 minutes, but you can get too close to the ball if you don't set up to each ball each time.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 12:23 AM
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I was having the same problem with short chip shanks. Finally discovered that the root cause was that on the short shots I was bending my arms when i was preparing for the shot. then as the club came through, my arms extended due to the weight and momemtum of the club during the swing, thereby causing the club to come down further from my body than on setup. This cause the hosel to strike the ball.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 02:16 AM
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....then i went to hit another bag after hitting a large bucket of range balls and boom! i was shanking everything right, and on the ground with no ball flight! what has happened...
A shank is when the neck (hozzel) of the club is making contact with the ball.

When you were hitting good shots you feel contact as the club decends into the shot. Then as you hit more balls your body and mind begins to exaggerate the descending blow and in doing so you push the club out of its path and now the neck or hozzel is pushed into the ball causing the "Shank".
The club is now being swung to far away from the body.

When this begins to happen put you weight back on your heels through impact and think more of a stroke and less of the downward movement of the club. Keep your hands quiet through the shot as your arms brush against you body.

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Old January 7th, 2005, 10:05 AM
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It seems like when the shanks occur, for me, it's usually when I get tired or get tense/nervous before a shot. I try to get too close to the ball..and thus hit it on the hosel. Now I always check my posture and stance in relation to the ball..it's weird how this things change during the game.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM
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:nodsmiley Good, helpful info. there guys and girls. I'm guilty of shanking my self (hence my username). But I think its part of what hkmiz said on tension and tiredness. A big factor, no doubt. Grip and stance is just as important.
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Re: shanking short pitch shots right of target

[A couple of months ago, I bought the Greg Norman Secret. Great swing aid. It not only taught me how to hold the wristcock longer, but fully rotate my shouldersas well. I too was at the range one day and hit a perfect bucket of short pitch shots when I started shanking ball after ball. Couldn't figure out why. I put the Secret back on. It fixed it right away. Someone told me last year that pitch shots only needed to be made by swinging the arms through and not the shoulders. Not true. Because of the shorter club, you have to turn through the shot quicker and continue rotating the shoulders just as you would do on a normal full swing, hence squaring up the club face. At the end of your finish, your hips should be facing the target, not still square like at address. By not turning through the shot, you are simply changing the swingpath, hence hitting the ball with the hosel, not the clubface.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 01:13 AM
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I find that most shanks with chips and pitches occur when you set up too close to the ball. A lot of my students crowd the ball at address. This sounds like the problem since you hit the first balls good. You don't loose your swing in 5 minutes, but you can get too close to the ball if you don't set up to each ball each time.

Crowding is definitely one of the cause for shanked chip shot.
Try this,(1) open you stance a bit to clear the hip, so it won't get in the way with your swing (2) place the ball in the back of the stance, however you feel comfortable, this is to make sure you'll catch the ball first and minimize the chance for too much turf contact (3) toe up a bit on the club face, instead of the whole sole flush with the ground, lift the heel slightly, this will also minimize error going through the ball. (4) address the golf ball towards the toe slightly ( 1/4 inch towards the toe ) instead of the sweet spot. (5) visualize hands staying ahead of the club face throughout the chip.
Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning.
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Shanking!!! -- Didn't you watch the movie "Tin Cup"? I propose that this horrible, horrible word and all of its derivations never be used again for any reason in these gentlmanly discourses on GolfRewind!
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