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Old January 28th, 2005, 09:40 PM
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i do have a considerable amount of backspin on my shorter irons, but the question is how can i control it? is there a way where i can avoid having it everytime? it would be nice to roll the ball up on some shots instead of hitting the ball past the pin and hoping that it might get close with the juice..
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Old January 29th, 2005, 04:11 AM
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im no golf pro but i would think ball position has something to do with it...ie: ball in the back of your stance will create less spin and more roll and ball in the front of your stance meaning more loft and more spin...
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Old January 29th, 2005, 04:26 AM
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wow. must be nice to have your problem. if you're spinning the ball that much then that means you've got great ball first contact, which puts you in a different area code than a good 75% of amateurs that i've seen. tiger does this, too. when he had those great couple of years, he was making alot of 3/4 swings with an abbreviated finish. that's what i do when i want the ball to hit & release. but with spin like that it's probably a minor adjustment for you. good golfing.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 01:43 PM
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i do have a considerable amount of backspin on my shorter irons, but the question is how can i control it? is there a way where i can avoid having it everytime? it would be nice to roll the ball up on some shots instead of hitting the ball past the pin and hoping that it might get close with the juice..

I usually take one club more and use a three quarter backswing. It is really effective when trying to stop the ball after one or two hops. It will have a lower trajectory but much easier to control. Easier to use when you have green to work with too. I would also suggest going and testing your distance with this shot.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 06:42 PM
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A ball change could help... Most pros have switched to a ProV1x because you can get a little lest backspin. This could also be just because it is winter and the greens are softer.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:24 PM
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Take one more club and swing it easy you will find you have more control on where the ball goes and what the ball does

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Old January 30th, 2005, 09:40 PM
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i do have a considerable amount of backspin on my shorter irons, but the question is how can i control it? is there a way where i can avoid having it everytime? it would be nice to roll the ball up on some shots instead of hitting the ball past the pin and hoping that it might get close with the juice..
To have less backspin:

1. Place the ball back in the stance (ball closer to back foot).

2. When first learning this work on less than a full swing. Using a less lofted club will help but not necessary because any club can have more roll by doing this.

3. Start the swing with the hands infront of the clubhead and continue this through contact.

4. Make sure your weight is on the front foot through impact.

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Old January 31st, 2005, 12:48 AM
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thanks diva for ur advise... will try tomorrow at the range.. appreciate it!
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Old January 31st, 2005, 10:47 PM
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I have been trying to put more spin on the ball, but i just cannot get it to happen at all. I have been using the method on "How to suck it back" in the instruction section of http://www.shark.com . The ball seems to just slip, no matter how steep the contact is.
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Old January 31st, 2005, 11:02 PM
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To have less backspin:

1. Place the ball back in the stance (ball closer to back foot).
This way you would be attacking the ball from a steeper angle. Wouldn't it increase because you get better ball first contact and it goes higher lands softer which increases the backspin? This is just my opinion I don't know the best way but that doesn't make sense to me.

The reason you are getting more backspin is because you are getting better contact so the best way to stop the spin is swing easyer with more club.
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Interesting theory the Shark has there. Will have to try that out tomorrow morning during my practice session.
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Just watch out it may come back to haunt you. You could land on the green and have so much spin that it roll off the green and into the water. I seem to remember seeing that on a tournament last year.
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Just watch out it may come back to haunt you. You could land on the green and have so much spin that it roll off the green and into the water. I seem to remember seeing that on a tournament last year.
Thats where Course Management seperates the boys from the men, or girls from the women.
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Old February 1st, 2005, 02:27 AM
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i do have a considerable amount of backspin on my shorter irons, but the question is how can i control it? is there a way where i can avoid having it everytime? it would be nice to roll the ball up on some shots instead of hitting the ball past the pin and hoping that it might get close with the juice..
As some have said .. "don't swing as hard" might do it, but with all due respect, Snakeyes, as one double-digit handicap to another... at a 14, not backing up your short irons so much is most likely way down the list of things you should be working on.
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Old February 1st, 2005, 01:18 PM
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To have less backspin:

1. Place the ball back in the stance (ball closer to back foot).


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This way you would be attacking the ball from a steeper angle. Wouldn't it increase because you get better ball first contact and it goes higher lands softer which increases the backspin? This is just my opinion I don't know the best way but that doesn't make sense to me...
You are correct and so am I.

The reason for this is that originally there was little lower body in the swing (prior to the 60s). It was taught that the lofted clubs were played closer to the back foot and each club moved forward till you got to the driver off the front foot, so there were 14 different club positions. This put the lofted club "attacking the ball from a steeper angle" making for a higher shot. Then the less lofted clubs where used to creat a lower shot played near the center of the stance.

Then the golf swing changed and we went to more lower body with active clothing. This new found power from the lower body caused impact to move forward from where we once played the ball.

The final thing that determines ball placement is how the hands are used. If a player delofts the club with their hands (to make a lower shot) then they need the ball back in the stance in most casses (that is if they use their lower body).

So because of these changes there are different ways of looking at ball placement.

The thing is to fit the ball placement to the persons needs and creativity.

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