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Well, it looks as if Hurricane Katrina has us in her sights. Evacuations are under way and the stores have been so crowded with people buying last minute supplies. Many gas stations sold out of gas by noon. I found it interesting to see what kinds of food some people were buying. I saw several people loading up on frozen foods and t.v. dinners. I wanted to asked them how they planned to cook or keep the food frozen without electricity.
Forged and I are planning to stay, but are close enough to my parents in Mississippi should we need to leave. At this time, the storm is still heading west and we hope it keeps going that way before it makes a turn. I always feel guilty wishing a storm will hit someplace else, all the while knowing that others will be in harm's way. We're just hoping and praying for the best.

Y'all better button up just in case...it looks to be heading for New Orleans but it'll probably still get plenty wet in Slidell Could be Cat 5 by landfall...we'll see. But...I bet y'all have had practice at preparing, right? Any rain you don't want, we'll take. Very hot day here in W. Tx. Take care FamilyRbest.

Shade

I'd been wondering if you folks were going to stick around. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as well as everyone else in Katrina's path. Hopefully she'll fizzle out a bit before she hits land. Be well and take care.

Good luck with Katrina. Isn't there a couse near you called The Oaks or something close to that? I played ther a couple of years ago. Nice track.

Be safe.

There is a course called Oak Harbor right by Lake Pontchartrain.

I left my clubs at home back in Covington, LA

Oh well new clubs


We left for West Monroe LA


Everyone be safe!

Katrina's now a strong Cat 4 with 145 mph winds.

God bless the people in it's potential path.



Edited again:

I tuned in at 4:50am EST and noticed the all important baromteric pressure had dropped slightly to 935 mbs..a sign of strengthening.

At 6 AM EST...it had plummeted to 915.

Winds now at 160 mph sustained.

Pressure now at 908 8:00 am EST

This one is starting to resemble the horror known as Camille...http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene...anecamille.htm

HURRICANE CAMILLE - August 17, 1969.
WINDS: 190 mph
PRESSURE: 909 Mb./26.84 inches.
STORM - SURGE: 22 - 25 feet above Mean Tide.



Footings and slabs are all that remain of residential area after Camille's 200 mph winds and 25 foot storm surge. Note steps to several structures. (Photo courtesy Chauncey T. Hinman/Brad Hinman - 1969/2003).


Hurricane Camille is a bench mark in the American hurricane experience. Although Camille hit an area that had a relatively small population by today's standards, the region was sufficiently built-up enough to provide a first hand lesson of what a hurricane of maximum intensity is capable of. One thing remains as true today, as it was 34 years ago after the storm hit: Hurricane Camille is the most intense storm of any kind to ever strike mainland America in modern history.

To put Hurricane Camille in scientific perspective, the storm represents bad luck - more than any meteorological extreme. Although rare, several other category 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic, and supertyphoons in the Pacific, have been as intense. The big difference however, was Camille made landfall when at this rare intensity. The resulting property damage was so complete, that sections of the Mississippi coast seemed to vanish.



Although satellite photos from the 1960's lack the resolution of today's images, this satellite of Hurricane Camille in the central Gulf of Mexico can't hide the terrifying signature of a tropical cyclone near maximum intensity. The very hard core of Camille is evident by the bright white clouds surrounding the immaculate eye. (Photo NOAA).



Camille was detected by satellite on August 14, 1969, as a tropical disturbance moving west in the Caribbean Sea. Early on the 15th, Camille became a strengthening hurricane while located off the western tip of Cuba. Crossing Cuba late on the 15th, Camille emerged in the southern Gulf of Mexico with 100 mph winds. By mid day on the 16th, reports from reconnaissance aircraft indicated that the storm had now slowed, but was intensifying, sustained winds had now reached 115 mph. By early evening, Camille was barely moving, but was intensifying rapidly with winds near 150 mph.

During this time, millions of Gulf coast residents snapped to attention. Camille was now among the strongest hurricanes ever observed in the Gulf of Mexico. Not since 1947, had a storm of this intensity threatened the central Gulf. By late in the afternoon on the 16th, an estimated 200,000 persons fled the central Gulf coast, while 50 civil defense shelters were opened. Near midnight on the 16th, hurricane warnings covered the entire middle Gulf coast. It was now estimated that Camille would strike near the mouth of the Mississippi River.



Track of Hurricane Camille in August 1969.



By the next afternoon (17 August), reconnaissance aircraft reached Hurricane Camille about 2:00 p.m. CDT, 100 miles south of the Mississippi coast. Historic conditions now existed in the tightly knotted vortex of Camille. The aircraft had measured a barometric pressure of 905 mb (26.73). This was one of the lowest barometric pressure readings ever measured by aircraft up to that time. Only two supertyphoons in the Pacific - Ida in 1958 (873 mb/25.90), and Marge in 1951(895 mb/26.20), had a lower barometric pressure been measured (JTWC 1976). Sustained winds had now increased to an incredible 190 mph. Camille was now estimated to make landfall along the Mississippi coast around midnight on the 17th.




Apartment building in Pass Christian, Mississippi before and after Camille. Pool is in center. (Photo courtesy Chauncey T. Hinman/Brad Hinman - 1969/2003).



As Camille marched toward the Mississippi coast in darkness, brick by brick, civilization from near Ansley to Biloxi, was erased. Homes, motels, apartments, restaurants, and other buildings were swept off their foundations, and deposited in mountains of rubble together with trees and automobiles. The local effect resembled an atomic bombing. Camille's 200 mph wind gusts and 25 foot storm surge, destroyed 100 years of growth and progress along the Mississippi coast in only three hours. Survivors near the eye reported a deafening roar of wind, that was by itself truly terrifying, often compared to speeding freight train. Although the damage in all of southern Mississippi was appalling, within about 1/2 mile from the ocean, most of the structures seemed to have just vanished. Only footings and slabs remained. Even plumbing systems had been removed. (W.Guice 1970).


METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS

Due to Camille's extreme intensity at landfall, meteorological conditions (winds, tides, pressure...etc.), were impossible to obtain. The National Hurricane Center estimates Camille had sustained winds of 190 mph with gusts in the 210 - 220 mph range. A Transworld oil rig platform tower that was abandoned as the hurricane approached, recorded gusts to 172 mph until failure. It has been estimated that from Biloxi to Gulfport, wind gusts were in excess of 180 mph, while from Long Beach to Waveland, winds likely exceeded 200 mph.

The lowest barometric pressure recorded on land in Camille was 909 mb (26.85) at Bay St. Louis. This is the second lowest barometric pressure ever measured in the United States. Only the 1935 Hurricane produced a lower pressure in the middle Keys of 892 Mb (26.35). Several reports of pressure under 915 Mb (27.00), were reported by survivors near the eye.

Hurricane Camille produced the highest hurricane tidal surge ever recorded in the United States. According to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (Mobile District 1970), a still-water, high water mark, of 22.6 feet above mean tide, was measured inside the VFW Clubhouse building in Pass Christian, Mississippi. Additionally, debris drift was found 25 feet above mean sea level in the vicinity of East Beach Blvd. Other locations more than 22 feet above sea level recorded high water marks. This included the Avalon Theater building in Pass Christian, a high water mark inside the building was measured to be 22.2 feet above sea level.

From air photos and ground surveys, the tidal surge of Hurricane Camille seemed without parallel in American history. No Pacific Coast tidal wave or Atlantic Coast storm (hurricane or winter storm) had ever submerged so much land to such a depth. In a truly biblical tale, one survivor told of sitting in his home during Camille, and watching as the ocean water spread through his yard and eventually flooded the first floor of his home. Retreating to the attic, the water was quickly neck deep, forcing him to kick out the small attic window and swim to a large transmission tower at the rear of his property. As he struggled to climb up the tower, he watched in horror, as the roof of his home went under water. He had lived 2 miles from the ocean (Coburn 1977).



Site of several oceanfront hotels (pool on right) reduced to slaps and footings along the Mississippi coast following Hurricane Camille in August 1969. (Photo courtesy Chauncey T. Hinman/Brad Hinman - 1969/2003).

The morning after the storm, thousands crawled from beneath the wreckage in southern Mississippi, wandering zombie-like through the blasted landscape. In the first few days after the storm, normal society ceased to function. Immediately 15,000 people were homeless, there was no water, food, or fuel. The storm had wiped out all means of communication, and roads, bridges, airports, and even railways were impassable or destroyed. The Gulfport Hospital closed - and evacuated all 800 patients to hospitals in the center of the State. Adding to the devastated landscape, was a serious and growing vermin control problem.




The remains of civilization - near Biloxi, Mississippi (Photo courtesy Photo courtesy Chauncey T. Hinman/Brad Hinman - 1969/2003).

Several sources consider Hurricane Camille the largest single act of destruction in United States history (until Hurricane Andrew in 1992). To this day, Camille remains the most extreme meteorological event to take place in North America. Although there is some question as to the total death toll, the best estimates are - 255 people killed, and 8,900 injured. A number of people (50 - 75) were never found. Nearly 14,000 housing units were damaged, and 6,000 others were totally destroyed (Coburn 1977). The total damage from Camille was $4.2 billion ( in 1969 dollars). As of the 2001 hurricane season, Camille remains the most intense hurricane to enter the United States mainland.


Folks, New Orleans is actually about 10-15 ft below sea level and completely surrounded by water making the situation even worse...if that's even possible.


Ping...I hope you and others in this path have gotten out of dodge.

God bless

Ya'll, I'm really scared! This is the "big" one we've been afraid of for years. I went through Camille when I was 12 and I remember it vividly. Forged, Daddy's Girl, and I are not going to hang around for this. We are heading up to my parents. Elizabeth is in Baton Rouge. If we are hit with the storm surge they are predicting, we may be under water. Please pray for all our friends in this area. Rainman, we hope you and yours are safe. Frichissin, take care.

We'll be thinking and praying for all invloved.

God bless!

All the best to our friends in Katrina's path...God be with you all!

All that are in Katrina's path are in my prayers, God be with you all.

Just looking at Ping's two posts and I must say - good call - no sense in staying in the path of this monster hurricane. Let's hope it loses some of its strength.
Good luck to all of those who stayed. BTW - can the Superdome sustain such a storm?

All the people that are in the way of this monster are in my prayers...I hope everyone is taking this serious. We've talked about a big hurricane hitting New Orleans in some college classes and it doesn't look good.

prayers and best wishes to the Best family and other's in the path of the storm.

stagday

Best wishes to Forged and Pings and all their family and friends.

Look forward to hearing from you when it has passed.