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Old October 4th, 2005, 10:09 AM
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interesting article

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Old October 4th, 2005, 10:25 AM
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Very good article.
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Old October 4th, 2005, 10:33 AM
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As stagday mentioned.....it's an interesting article. If you disagree with it you risk ending up with the status quo in the damaged areas and if you agree.....you're likely to labeled a racist. It's certainly food for thought.
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Old October 4th, 2005, 10:35 AM
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I wonder.........Have people who live in kit homes in storm areas ever seen the Wizard of Oz?
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Old October 4th, 2005, 10:58 AM
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As stagday mentioned.....it's an interesting article. If you disagree with it you risk ending up with the status quo in the damaged areas and if you agree.....you're likely to labeled a racist. It's certainly food for thought.

sad but true League, but it's high time some organization(and I'm thinking of the national press here) to start picking up on this travesty. just like NO's, there's enough blame to go around but it's high time we recognize the problem and deal with it no matter how un-pc it may be.

for instance, I was watching Lou Dobbs last night(not my regular programming btw) discussing a new report on education. This report he was referring to said that in California, 50%, yes 50% of the blacks and hispanics were dropping out of school and 20% of the black students were not graduating. those are very alarming statistics. Obviously throwing more money at the problem is not the answer and I'm fairly sure we could all recognize what the main problems are. He did not mention any statistics on other dropout or graduating rates.

it may be a certainty that if this country does not wake up and start dealing with it, it could absolutely be devasting for future generations.

anyway, I think I'm done with my rant. lol.

I'm not interested in flaming other's, but I sure would like other opinions on this subject. Afterall, we are family here and we should be able to discuss matters such as this in a civil and productive atmosphere.

and thanks Elizabeth for taking the time to read the article, hope other's do likewise.

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Old October 4th, 2005, 05:16 PM
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I'm not interested in flaming other's, but I sure would like other opinions on this subject. Afterall, we are family here and we should be able to discuss matters such as this in a civil and productive atmosphere.

and thanks Elizabeth for taking the time to read the article, hope other's do likewise.

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ok. I thought that it was simplistic, inaccurate and stereotypical in the extreme.

P.S. If some of the blanket statements in the article were posted verbatim on this board they would be deleted... for good reason and the poster would be warned if not banned.

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Old October 4th, 2005, 05:48 PM
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Like any article, it had some parts that were probably truth, and some parts that were likely just the exaggerated bias of the author. I don't think that in all cases, the scenario he stated was the case, but I also think that there's no doubt in this mind that some probably did expect the government to bail them out rather than making an attempt to work it out themselves.
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Old October 4th, 2005, 08:54 PM
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P.S. If some of the blanket statements in the article were posted verbatim on this board they would be deleted... for good reason and the poster would be warned if not banned.
I didn't see any statements in that article that would get someone banned, unless they were a serial offender. This thread took a wrong turn somewhere around stagday's article......
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Old October 4th, 2005, 11:53 PM
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I'm not interested in flaming other's, but I sure would like other opinions on this subject. Afterall, we are family here and we should be able to discuss matters such as this in a civil and productive atmosphere.
OK...
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ok. I thought that it was simplistic, inaccurate and stereotypical in the extreme.
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This thread took a wrong turn somewhere around stagday's article.
I totally agree with the above two statements 100%.

There's my

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Old October 5th, 2005, 01:01 AM
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As stagday mentioned.....it's an interesting article. If you disagree with it you risk ending up with the status quo in the damaged areas and if you agree.....you're likely to labeled a racist. It's certainly food for thought.
I found it interesting that the article was written by a black minister.

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Just out of interest i'm wondering why many houses over in the States are made out of wood?
Surely not the best of materials to make a house of especially in hurricane and tornado prone areas.
I just find it amazing as most houses over here in the UK are built from two layers of bricks with double or triple glazing, and we usually don't have anywhere near the extreme weather you guys do.
While homes made of wood might suffer significant damage during the high winds of a hurricane, some of the concrete homes around here were washed away by Katrina's powerful storm surge. Most of the devastating damage and death is caused by the hurricane's storm surge and resulting floods, not the winds. The destruction of the Twin Span bridge between New Orleans and Slidell and the bridge across Bay St. Louis in Mississippi are good examples of just how vulnerable any structure is in the path of mighty surge, which in effect is a tsunami. Around Slidell, I have seen several old, rather dilapidated wooden homes washed, almost completely intact, hundreds of yards from their original foundation. I was shocked that the storm surge, which I've read was over 30 ft., reached inland areas over 10 miles from the shore in places. I saw a picture of storm surge debris piled on top of an I-10 overpass crossing a highway in Mississippi. I know that overpass is at least 10 miles from the beach, because I taken that route many times to go to the casino in Bay St. Louis. I'm sure that building codes and flood zones around here (and hopefully levee construction in New Orleans) will be examined, reviewed and revised many times over for future construction in hurricane prone areas.
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Old October 5th, 2005, 01:50 PM
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it's high time some organization(and I'm thinking of the national press here) to start picking up on this travesty... it's high time we recognize the problem and deal with it no matter how un-pc it may be...it may be a certainty that if this country does not wake up and start dealing with it, it could absolutely be devasting for future generations.,,and thanks Elizabeth for taking the time to read the article, hope other's do likewise.
Well you've taken a productive first step...the golf discussion forum is the first place I'd go to try to shape young minds to insure the survival of future generations. Wake up you...you...golfers! Priceless contribution.

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Old October 5th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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Well you've taken a productive first step...the golf discussion forum is the first place I'd go to try to shape young minds to insure the survival of future generations. Wake up you...you...golfers! Priceless contribution.

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Old October 6th, 2005, 10:25 AM
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I think the article for the most part is right on target. Look how Bill Cosby has been criticized for just publicly stating what is obvious to most people and confirmed by local health department statistics all over the country that show that on the average, 60 to 70 percent of all black children are born out of wedlock. As for the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson, I have spent some time with him in my years in the media, including a lot off camera. I came to the conclusion he is a self serving opportunist that shows up when there is something to be gained politically. He is quick to criticize others, and I find that hypocrtical for someone who can't keep his OWN pants on. I think he and Farrakand are both morally bankrupt.
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Old October 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM
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Old October 6th, 2005, 12:40 PM
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I just wonder what this thread has to do with golf?...the Hurricane Katrina thread was topical because members of this forum went through it and definitely were impacted by it. But this thread has absolutely zero to do with golf...what about the movie thread or sports, you say? Well, those topics are more common to everyone else here and sometimes they even do involve golf topics. This one doesn't. I'm not here to say whether the content of the article or subsequent posts are right or wrong, just that the subject may be more topical, better recieved and have a bigger impact somewhere else on the net...like here, for instance. They even have a whole section for discussion of Katrina "fallout" which seems to be quite popular.

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