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Old April 26th, 2005, 03:04 PM
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If you use those winners as the "field" which of the 4 Majors is the strongest?
Interesting decision that the European success has been mainly in the Masters,which is consistent with the Ryder cup domination
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Old April 26th, 2005, 03:27 PM
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Interesting decision that the European success has been mainly in the Masters,which is consistent with the Ryder cup domination
The Ryder Cup "domination" has only been the last 10 years or so and only 2 Europeans have won the Masters in that time. Faldo and Olazabal.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:57 PM
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The Masters needs to change if it is to maintain its status as a Major. Cluttering up a small field with players who can not compete devalues the tournament. I think there should be a Champions Tour event at Augusta , with a selected field of past champions and grerat players. Then ,the Major tournament could be opened up to all of the top 100 players ,improving the quality of the field.

As Mr Ford once said, History is bunk .
I kind of side with Lefty here. Sometimes I think that the Masters seems to rely on it`s sense of tradition, to maintain it`s status as a major, and it`s not continuing to develop, in order to maintain it`s standing as a Major. To enlarge the field to maybe the top 75 world ranked players would be great
I`d rather they enlarge the field and do away with the 10-shot rule if there`s a constraint on the number of Sunday groupings. When it comes to status, as a viewer I think The Players Championship has grown in status over the years which has been helped by having a larger field of more players who could be in contention.

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Old April 26th, 2005, 09:08 PM
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I prefer the Masters field to any of the other majors. Because it's so exclusive it pretty much guarantees that come Sunday you'll have a marquee leaderboard and a great winner. The same can't be said for the others. Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Shaun Micheel...all nice guys but to be honest, if I had known before the final round (and I did for the 2003 PGA) that they were going to win their respective majors I'd have went and watched something more interesting...like grass growing. :nodsmiley
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Old April 27th, 2005, 03:32 AM
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The Ryder Cup "domination" has only been the last 10 years or so and only 2 Europeans have won the Masters in that time. Faldo and Olazabal.
Sorry,since 1983,Europe 6,USA 4 with one halved,with USA only winning once in Europe,Europe winning three times in USA

SInce 1983,Seve(1983) ,LAnger x 2,Lyle ,Faldo x 3,Woossie, Olazabal x 2 , representing 10 wins.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 09:52 AM
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Only a Euro would call a 6-4-1 record "domination" but I suppose if I had the sorry Ryder Cup record you had prior to 1983 I'd feel like that was "dominating" too.

Where are all the Euro winners at the Masters prior to 1983? Other than Seve, I don't see any that would be eligible for any past champions play.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 12:44 PM
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Where are all the Euro winners at the Masters prior to 1983
Sitting at home waiting for an invitation.Prior to Tony Jacklin, nobody was invited.If you only invite Americans , do not be suprised if Americans 'dominate'.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. An old pro should know when not to play anymore, and if he insists on playing, let him - he's earned it. Just my two cents.

If we follow the logic of having a Senior Masters, we might end up with a Senior US Open, a Senior PGA, a Senior British Open, etc... Next thing you know you'll end up with a Senior Tour!
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Sitting at home waiting for an invitation.Prior to Tony Jacklin, nobody was invited.If you only invite Americans , do not be suprised if Americans 'dominate'.
Back in the day.....all a Euro had to do was win a PGA Tour event to get an "invitation." Same as everyone else. :nodsmiley

There's no way to link the Masters to Ryder Cup history, "dominating" performances or otherwise. Euro's started winning at Augusta about the time Ballesteros, Langer, and Faldo hit their prime.

We'll never see a "Senior Masters" and I really don't want to see that anyway. I say let the old guys play their own pre-tournament round or limit the Par 3 contest to past champions. Either way, the old guys get to play and the fans get to see them. That's always been a part of Masters lore, and I hope it remains that way.
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