I read the article properly, and I know an excuse making whiner when I hear one. The car thing was just an exaggeration to emphasize my point. Do you think for one minute Howell would've made any of these comments if he was ranked in the top 10 or was higher on the money list? Maybe if he was playing better and making more cuts his Euro buddies would hang out with him. That begs the question.....Why aren't the rest of his Euro buddies hangin' out with him? After all, the best of them are playing over here.
So, let's see, he comes out and honestly says, I didn't adjust very well, I haven't played great apart from a few rounds at the Masters. What is he supposed to say?
Do I think he would have made those comments if he was in the top 10? Hmm - probably not all of them. for sure he wouldn't be saying I didn't adjust all that great. He'd be saying, yeah, I was surprised but I found it easier than I expected and those American golfers are all pampered **** , but the Tour isn't very friendly.
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David Howell's main reason for his lack of success in USA, and this makes him a whiner?
He only won $224,000 in eight events.
What would you call it? He's citing the same reasons for not enjoying it over here in America that the Americans that don't play in the British Open cite for not playing over there. It's whining from all of them. Plain and simple. :nodsmiley
So you agree that USA players should travel more?But I thought US players do not come over because it is a long way for one tournament .
He was honest about his lack(?) of success , and said he did not enjoy travelling for long periods of time. Didn't say it was anyone's fault ,just said it was not for him. Sounds honest and open to me .
BTW since he returned he lost in a play off and is joint leader after early part of second round in Ireland.
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So you agree that USA players should travel more? But I thought US players do not come over because it is a long way for one tournament.
Yes, they should travel more......From California to Florida to Georgia to Ohio to Michigan to New Jersey etc. I think you get the idea.
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He was honest about his lack(?) of success , and said he did not enjoy travelling for long periods of time. Didn't say it was anyone's fault ,just said it was not for him. Sounds honest and open to me.
BTW since he returned he lost in a play off and is joint leader after early part of second round in Ireland.
Again, he wouldn't be making those negative comments if he was more successful over here and it doesn't surprise me that he's doing better over there. The competition in the Ireland isn't quite the PGA Tour now is it?
If an American came over there and made those comments, you and your media would fry him. Howell came over here, tried it, wasn't as successful as he thought he would be, and went home to play in lesser tournaments.
You call it like you see it and I'll call it like I see it.
So you agree that USA players should travel more?But I thought US players do not come over because it is a long way for one tournament .
He was honest about his lack(?) of success , and said he did not enjoy travelling for long periods of time. Didn't say it was anyone's fault ,just said it was not for him. Sounds honest and open to me .
BTW since he returned he lost in a play off and is joint leader after early part of second round in Ireland.
Bad point. This merely proves that Howell CAN adjust very well to time changes and jet-lag and that he's top a top tier European golfer.
Not sold? Then let's look at his numbers at the British Open where he IS "well adjusted" AND competing against the best golfers in the world:
Seems to me the only thing Howell has a problem with is world class competition without the safety net of a partner (lost his only Ryder Cup singles match 6 & 4). In fact he's not even the best Howell in the field when Charles III is about.
In fact he's not even the best Howell in the field when Charles III is about.
Rather than go back to 1996, why not look at his season. Majors played this year show him in a better light ,especially against CH3.
Travelling overseas continuously does not help your golf game . USA expect the rest of the world to come over to foriegn country which can not provide a decent cup of tea, proper bacon or marmalade for breakfast , but USA golfers are famous for never wanting to travel themselves.
USA expect the rest of the world to come over to foriegn country which can not provide a decent cup of tea, proper bacon or marmalade for breakfast , but USA golfers are famous for never wanting to travel themselves.[
Tea, bacon, and marmalade? No wonder you can't get US players over there. Do you have any idea of the amenities American tournaments are throwing at PGA Tour pros these days just to get them to play?
Give up the "the Americans won't travel to play" complaining. The best of everything is right here in the USA and there is absolutely no incentive, or reason, for the US players to settle for second best. Would you?
Jack did, Arnie did , Tom did ,Payne did, you do not get more American than those guys.
Only Americans believe that ,and while some overseas people, including myself , love USA and visit every chance we get , it does not do USA justice
The world of professional golf has changed dramatically since the days of Jack, Arnie, and Tom. You are comparing apples to oranges. You make it sound like no American ever plays in tournaments outside the US and that's just not true.
When I posted "the best of everything is right here in the US" I was referring to professional golf. That statement wasn't intended to include anything else other than golf. The courses outside the US may be just as challenging but you can't compete with the purses or the perks readily available to those playing in the US. If you could, we wouldn't be having this discussion now would we?
the purses or the perks readily available to those playing in the US
If that was all that mattered, then there would be no argument , but there is a lot more that matters other than money. If you do not understand that, I feel sorry for you.
May 20th, 2005, 10:01 AM
, but the Tour isn't very friendly.
That begs the question.....Why aren't the rest of his Euro buddies hangin' out with him? After all, the best of them are playing over here. 
He's citing the same reasons for not enjoying it over here in America that the Americans that don't play in the British Open cite for not playing over there. It's whining from all of them. Plain and simple. :nodsmiley
The competition in the Ireland isn't quite the PGA Tour now is it? 
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