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Old May 27th, 2005, 08:08 PM
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The only sport there with a World Champion is hockey, which Great Britain won gold medal at the olympics some time ago.oh, do you means grass or ice ?

None of the other sports are played seriously elsewhere, with the possible exception of basketball.
Hockey and baseball aren't played seriously elsewhere? Now who's being insular? I see that your cricket, rugby, and rugby league, are dominating the world sports scene these days. Didn't you mention something about the Olympics being a series of individual events? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Americans and American teams play in as many, or more, international sporting events as any country in the world.
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Old May 29th, 2005, 05:31 AM
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American teams play in as many, or more, international sporting events as any country in the world
Name one, apart from the football team that lost to England's tired reserves last night.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html

Here is the New York Times sports page.

The first mention of team sports outside of USA comes after the college sports.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/default.stm

Now look at BBC Sport web site.

Even has a headline for Boston beating NY YAnkees.

That's International sport.

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Old May 29th, 2005, 09:35 AM
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Rugby World Cup: http://www.worldcupweb.com/WCrugby/Results.asp

Lacrosse (or Field Hockey as I'd assume you'd call it) World Cup-looks like we've fared pretty well in that one :nodsmiley : http://www.uslacrosse.org/worldcup/pastchamps.phtml

Plus the World Hockey Championships, Davis Cup, Ryder and Presidents' Cups, most of the Olympic team sports...just to name a few. The only one I don't find much mention of is cricket, but when you've already perfected a better game, why take a step back?
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Old May 29th, 2005, 01:36 PM
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Lacrosse (or Field Hockey as I'd assume you'd call it)
Wrong again, Hockey is a game played on grass ,not ice .
http://www.fihockey.org/
Lacrosse is a game played by girls at expensive schools. They also play rounders, similar to baseball , and netball, like basketball but needing more skill as there is n't a backboard.



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Old May 29th, 2005, 07:30 PM
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Wrong again, Hockey is a game played on grass ,not ice .
http://www.fihockey.org/
Lacrosse is a game played by girls at expensive schools. They also play rounders, similar to baseball , and netball, like basketball but needing more skill as there is n't a backboard.

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Wrong again? Was I wrong sometime before in this thread?

Regardless, whatever it is, we're still competing internationally at it....

I don't make the names, and note the Series behind it. If you'd like to send a team from over there to compete, maybe Selig would allow it, but I don't think the fans would enjoy seeing the pastings any MLB team would give them too greatly.
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Old May 29th, 2005, 09:09 PM
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stlcard_25, take it easy on Lefty. He thinks that any game they play in his little neighborhood is an "international sport." I'm surprised he didn't mention darts.

The world is simply in awe of all the great UK athletes.
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Old May 30th, 2005, 12:31 PM
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Name one, apart from the football team that lost to England's tired reserves last night.
Lacrosse seems to be the best offer, along with a very unsuccessful Rugby team that lost every game.
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Old May 30th, 2005, 12:52 PM
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The point behind trying to find an international sport that USA plays is very simple.

Any young sports person growing up in Europe/South Afica /Australia knows that to be taken seriously, they have to prove themselves on an international stage. Success in your home country only is limited in its value. Playing overseas and winning is the true mark of a champion.

In USA , most sports heroes regard Canada as the furthest they need travel. Michael Jordan is irrelevant outside USA ,most Europeans/Australians/South Africans would not feature him in their top twenty sportsmen.

Most USA sports people who travel internationally are tennis players, a sport where the big events are spread evenly around the world, where no one country dominates the big tournaments. When golf has an even spread the way tennis does, the game will grow and be healthier.
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Old May 30th, 2005, 08:57 PM
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Most USA sports people who travel internationally are tennis players, a sport where the big events are spread evenly around the world, where no one country dominates the big tournaments. When golf has an even spread the way tennis does, the game will grow and be healthier.
Tennis is a healthy and growing sport? But you're right, I think we should start a petition and send it to the R&A to send their Open Championship around the world so that three countries don't dominate the events. After all, they run things almost everywhere in the world, so why shouldn't they at least, for the good of growing the game, take the event elsewhere? The Open Championship at Royal Melbourne anyone? Sounds good to me.

I'd be willing to wager that US sports stars travel nearly as many miles as these "international" stars in Europe. The only difference is that they can travel 3000 miles and still remain in the same country. :nodsmiley
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Old May 31st, 2005, 07:12 AM
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Wrong again, Hockey is a game played on grass ,not ice .
http://www.fihockey.org/
Lacrosse is a game played by girls at expensive schools.
Actually lacrosse (which BTW is the Canadian national sport, not ice hockey as many imagine) is very much a man's game. It is played professionally in Canada, and, quite possibly the US as well?

Most North Americans think that field hockey is a game played by girls at expensive schools, since real men play ice hockey.
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I'd be willing to wager that US sports stars travel nearly as many miles as these "international" stars in Europe. The only difference is that they can travel 3000 miles and still remain in the same country.
And your point is?
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Old May 31st, 2005, 10:07 AM
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The point behind trying to find an international sport that USA plays is very simple.
And the "international sports" that the UK plays are? Other than soccer of course.




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Most USA sports people who travel internationally are tennis players, a sport where the big events are spread evenly around the world, where no one country dominates the big tournaments. When golf has an even spread the way tennis does, the game will grow and be healthier.
Now you want to compare golf with tennis? You are joking right? How many fans attend a tennis tournament? How many tennis tournaments are televised in your country? Which industry is bigger and which game has more world wide players?

"When golf has an even spread the way tennis does" (yeah right ) it will become as inconsequential in the sporting world as tennis. :nodsmiley Quick.....name the top 5 players in tennis. Now do the same for golf. The casual sports fan knows the golfers more often than the tennis players.

The game of golf is healthier than it's ever been. Your petty jealousy of the powerful and ultra successful PGA Tour is showing again. Or is just an "American" thing with you? Spreading golf around the world just for the sake of an "even spread" is pointless, counterproductive, and would dilute professional golf even more than it already is. Fortunately, that's not going to happen.........unless you either have the financial power to make it so or the desire to kill the golden goose.
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Old May 31st, 2005, 10:30 AM
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Any young sports person growing up in Europe/South Afica /Australia knows that to be taken seriously, they have to prove themselves on an international stage. Success in your home country only is limited in its value. Playing overseas and winning is the true mark of a champion.

In USA , most sports heroes regard Canada as the furthest they need travel. Michael Jordan is irrelevant outside USA ,most Europeans/Australians/South Africans would not feature him in their top twenty sportsmen.

Most USA sports people who travel internationally are tennis players, a sport where the big events are spread evenly around the world, where no one country dominates the big tournaments. When golf has an even spread the way tennis does, the game will grow and be healthier.
Really? Then how do you explain the all of those EUROPEAN olympic basketball players lining up to get autographs and their pictures taken with the original Dream Team of which Michael Jordan was a centerpiece? MMmmmm could it beeeeeeee: RELEVANCE. (insert Dana Carvey's Church Lady dance )
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And the "international sports" that the UK plays are? Other than soccer of course.
This week UK will play an international cricket match, start an International Rugby tour as well as play an International football match. Oh , and an English driver will win Indy 500.

Your ranting and raving about tennis and claims of pettyiness show a lack of answers to valid points.


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Then how do you explain the all of those EUROPEAN olympic basketball players lining up to get autographs and their pictures taken with the original Dream Team of which Michael Jordan was a centerpiece?
The table tennis players were trying to get the autograph of the table tennis champion as well. Michael Jordan is best known for the applaling film Space Jam , where the rabbit outperformed him (according to my daughter).

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This week UK will play an international cricket match, start an International Rugby tour as well as play an International football match. Oh , and an English driver will win Indy 500.

Your ranting and raving about tennis and claims of pettyiness show a lack of answers to valid points.
Ranting and raving? Come on Lefty, you brought up the tennis. I just compared it to golf. BTW Tennis loses in that comparison every time. :nodsmiley

You're making all my valid points for me. :nodsmiley Cricket and rugby? Now there's a pair of great "international sports!" I say that basketball and ice hockey are far bigger international sports than cricket and rugby. Baseball probably falls into that category too. But those aren't sports you English chaps are very good at now are they? They can't be "international sports" if you're not the champion?

Your Micheal Jordan comments just show a lack of knowledge and appreciation of the sport of basketball. Not to mention the "international" appeal of the man.

Nice call on the Indy 500 winner. Your powers of prognostication are amazing! I'm surprised you mentioned that, seeing that it's held in the USA every year!
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