Maybe this thread should be renamed "Let's all and moan about what Tiger did today and start a useless argument" Last I knew, there was a major championshi going on to talk about and plenty of other stories besides this silly matter.
Card, I'm not trying to bring Tiger back into this, but would you not be extremely mad if you were at the course you work at and saw someone intentionally try to destroy a green?
Since Father's day is coming, what would you do or say if you were golfing with your son and he did all the same things that Tiger does(picking on Tiger only because it's a Tiger thread). The same could be said for Perez, etc.
Since Father's day is coming, what would you do or say if you were golfing with your son and he did all the same things that Tiger does(picking on Tiger only because it's a Tiger thread). The same could be said for Perez, etc.
stagday
Not only that...what would you say to your son if his reply was "If Tiger can do it, why can't I"? Golf etiquette and decorum are hard enough to instill in youngsters as it is without golf's superstars (who are aware that the eyes of the world are on them) setting bad examples with such displays. Cite the pressure of major tournament golf as an excuse for such behavior if you wish...but just like in other major sports, the fans/viewers/consumers are the reason the money on tour is what it is so, imo, the players owe it to the viewing public (especially the kids) to exercise some restraint. JM2˘
Maybe this thread should be renamed "Let's all and moan about what Tiger did today and start a useless argument" Last I knew, there was a major championshi going on to talk about and plenty of other stories besides this silly matter.
The incident has been blown out of proportion, but each topic gets it's own thread so that those who feel that a thread is silly don't have to read them, let alone post to them.
I joined this thread because 1 iron guy was taking a shelling for posting something that was appropriate to write about and worth noting. I will always come to the defense of someone who is getting knocked in the mud for doing nothing more than expressing their opinions in an appropriate manner.
I am a long time fan of TW so it is safe to say that only some TW fans seem to take criticism of old clay feet personally. However, a fan becomes a fanatic when they feel duty bound to pounce on those who mention anything negative about whatever it is they are fanatical about, and fanaticism generally leads to bad things.
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doesn't matter who it is.
Since Father's day is coming, what would you do or say if you were golfing with your son and he did all the same things that Tiger does(picking on Tiger only because it's a Tiger thread). The same could be said for Perez, etc.
stagday
Nail, head. Head, nail. Exactly, TW doesn't get a free pass just because he is TW. NONE of these guys should get a free pass for bad behavior, they are the face of the game, they should be criticized when they behave inappropriately on a golf course. If they do the wrong thing, a whole bunch of people will think they can do it too. The only golfer I know of who is above criticism is Annika.
I've done worse. I'm not proud of it, but I've actually done worse to a green. It was back in high school and I had major anger problems on the course. I was playing in the district tourney and I missed a birdie putt that would have put me on top. I lipped it out and slammed my putter down and shouted, very loudly, an obscene word. The green had a huge mark in it and I didn't even fix it.
At least Tiger fixed his mark. And it wasn't anywhere near what I did.
Nail, head. Head, nail. Exactly, TW doesn't get a free pass just because he is TW. NONE of these guys should get a free pass for bad behavior, they are the face of the game, they should be criticized when they behave inappropriately on a golf course. If they do the wrong thing, a whole bunch of people will think they can do it too. The only golfer I know of who is above criticism is Annika.
That really doesn't make sense. Annika is above it, but Tiger is not? How does that make any sense at all? Back in the day Jack and Arnold use foul language all the time; and they're praised.
Card, I'm not trying to bring Tiger back into this, but would you not be extremely mad if you were at the course you work at and saw someone intentionally try to destroy a green?
Intentionally try to destroy a green? Every golfer who fails to fix a pitch mark is doing far more harm to a green than what Tiger did. Give me a divot repair tool and a hand roller and what minimal damage Tiger caused would be unnoticeable within 30 seconds. Not that it makes what he did right....it was a stupid action and he should be fined for it.
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The incident has been blown out of proportion, but each topic gets it's own thread so that those who feel that a thread is silly don't have to read them, let alone post to them.
Judging by your lack of restraint with respect to language in this particular thread, it's a good thing I DID decide to read it. :nodsmiley
It doesnt matter now, he wasnt fined for it. The USGA and the PGA treat Tiger differently than anyone else. Remember when the whole gallery helped him move that "loose impediment"? HAHAHAHA
By Ken Klavon, Kevin McManemin and David Shefter, USGA
Pinehurst, N.C. – Anyone who saw it must have gasped. In a moment of frustration Friday, Tiger Woods apparently scraped the ninth green with his club after missing a putt. He made an attempt to repair the damage afterward.
According to the Rules of Golf, Section I: Etiquette, "Players should avoid causing damage to the course … by hitting the head of a club into the ground, whether in anger or for any other reason."
Furthermore, the Etiquette section also provides that the Committee may disqualify a player under Rule 33-7 for a "serious breach" of etiquette or "if a player consistently disregards these guidelines during a round or over a period of time to the detriment of others."
Tom Meeks, USGA senior director of Rules and Competitions, said that Woods’ actions would be considered a breach of etiquette, but the one-time occurrence would not qualify as a "serious breach." No action was taken.
Rule 16-1, which outlines the conditions under which the putting green may be touched by a player, prohibits roughening or scraping the putting surface for testing purposes. The definition of testing requires the intent to test. It was ruled Woods’ actions didn’t imply intent.
"I was [upset]," said Woods laughing. "I ran the first one by on six, ran it about 20 feet by, and then that one ran about 10 feet by. I wasn’t exactly very happy at myself."
That really doesn't make sense. Annika is above it, but Tiger is not? How does that make any sense at all? Back in the day Jack and Arnold use foul language all the time; and they're praised.
Try and make sense next time.
Sorry, little tongue in cheek, I will try to make it clearer next time.
If true, there's no excuse for it. I didn't see an apology in PingsRbest's post just an excuse/explanation. It seems that apologizing would be the least he could do. I've also done worse on the course when I was young and I'm certainly not proud of it. I wasn't the idol of millions playing on golf's largest stage, though.
ok...like you've never EVER dragged a putter behind you intentional or not
No, I haven't and I don't plan to and I don't throw clubs and I don't swear and I don't act like a foolish child and taught my children to act properly too. So far, the worse thing my kid does after a bad shot is proclaims is "I hate this game." and not very loudly either. :
If you want to do those things or aren't careful when you play, that's your business, but don't assume everyone else acts that way.
June 18th, 2005, 01:34 AM
and moan about what Tiger did today and start a useless argument" 
Last I knew, there was a major championshi going on to talk about and plenty of other stories besides this silly matter.
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