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Old July 19th, 2005, 11:42 AM
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Tiger's dominance seems to be re-emerging but it will never be the same (in result or intimidation) as it was after his run of 4 consecutive major victories (aka the Tiger-Slam).

Sergio is the one to look at in my estimation. He has the talent, desire and now maybe even the mindset/maturity to get the job done. Seve? Please, I wouldn't even take him in a match with Jack Nicklaus.... TODAY.

You may be right but time will tell. Tiger was counted out from 2003-2004 because of his swing change. There is no reason that he can't do what he did in 1999-2000 again. A lot of people state that he can't because the other players are better but I have not seen it this year. At Tigers worst he was still #3 in the world and he is still not 30 years old yet. VJ was #1 for a last year and he is what 41 years old. Tiger has people worried again.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 12:59 PM
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I think Tiger can return to what he did in 2000 just because I saw in on Sunday. The only part of his game that's lacking from 2000 is his putting. He still misses some very makeable putts. But on Sunday, he struck the ball better than I ever saw him strike it, especially those first 12 holes. If he could have made some 5-7 footers, he would have really separated.

You know, people rip Singh, Garcia and Goosen for not making a charge on Tiger on Sunday..Well, only one person besides Tiger in the last 13 groups was able to break par. The course played very tough late Sunday, and still Tiger was sticking shots...that's what amazed me.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 01:06 PM
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Seve and Duval's best ball against Jack!
hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

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Old July 19th, 2005, 02:18 PM
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....... on Sunday, he struck the ball better than I ever saw him strike it, especially those first 12 holes.
The 2000 U.S. Open will forever be the finest display of ball striking, putting, driving, chipping anywhere, anytime...... at least until someone else blows away the field by 15 strokes in a major.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM
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Unless one of the top five (or six) beat Tiger to win the uSPGA , the big five will start to fade.
Els and Mickleson are having a lousy year,Singh is a flat track bully and Goosen can't play on Sundays.Garcia can not string four rounds together.Tiger is the proven winner of the bunch.
I agree that the concept of the Big Five is in danger unless a couple of those guys do some big things before the year is over. Remember, the Big Five was a marketing concept pushed by the PGA TOUR, with the golf media going along for the ride.

And things started quite nicely, with Phil and Vijay winning three times and keeping up with Tiger. I do not agree that Phil is having a "lousy" season. Top tens in half his starts and three TOUR victories is not lousy. But he has certainly lost his swing and appears to be in big trouble. He has typically shut things down right after the PGA Championship and if he does that this year he may very well end up finishing eighth or ninth on the money list.

Ernie's season has been "lousy," especially in the U.S. And winless players (Goosen) should never be mentioned in any Big talk. Vijay has actually continued to play very nicely, thank you. Mark my words, Vijay will get his putting problems straightened out very soon and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him win a couple more times this year.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 11:01 PM
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Ernie's season has been "lousy," especially in the U.S. And winless players (Goosen) should never be mentioned in any Big talk. Vijay has actually continued to play very nicely, thank you. Mark my words, Vijay will get his putting problems straightened out very soon and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him win a couple more times this year.
Singh and Goosen are both putting lousy this year, I think Goosen worse than Singh. Interesting stat I came by. Retief had a total of 10 3-putts last year. He has 22 already this year, and we've still got a few months to go. I think both of those guys could be challenging Tiger if they had their putters working. They're constantly in the top-5 and top-10 every week. As for Phil and Ernie, inconsistency is their problem. Ernie has swing issues. Phil is reverting back to his old ways, in which he can't stay consistent thru 18 holes. I think we could see some major switcheroo in spots 3-6 by the end of the year.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 11:22 PM
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The 2000 U.S. Open will forever be the finest display of ball striking, putting, driving, chipping anywhere, anytime...... at least until someone else blows away the field by 15 strokes in a major.
Hard to argue that.

I thought I witnessed this at the '97 Masters...but that performance at Pebble was even better.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 02:49 AM
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The 'big five ' may be replaced by 'Tiger and the also rans' , unless one of them wins the PGA.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 03:09 AM
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I think Cernunnos saying missing cuts may mean missing shots.

Oh he may have missed shots, but I am repeating what I have witnessed commentators say on the BBC.. where Tiger has been missing from numerous tournaments this year.

Hes a good player, but no better than anyone else. He just tends to be more consistent & doesn't let a bad shot ro=uin a round.. And a 72 is dismal for Tiger, in comparison with how his supporters would have us think he plays... Hes a good, maybe great player, but far from infalable & many of his supporters seem to forget & ignore his bad moments.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 09:46 AM
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Oh he may have missed shots, but I am repeating what I have witnessed commentators say on the BBC.. where Tiger has been missing from numerous tournaments this year.

Hes a good player, but no better than anyone else. He just tends to be more consistent & doesn't let a bad shot ro=uin a round.. And a 72 is dismal for Tiger, in comparison with how his supporters would have us think he plays... Hes a good, maybe great player, but far from infalable & many of his supporters seem to forget & ignore his bad moments.
Say what you want...but his record speaks for itself. Like him or not it's hard to dispute facts.

When it's all said done, I think it's fair to say the record books will read Jack #1, Tiger #2...or Tiger #1, Jack #2.

Heck with just one more Major he'll rank 2nd in that category tying Hagan with 11. If you want to include the Amatuers he's already tied Jones for 2nd.

Did I mention, he's not even 30 yet?
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Old July 20th, 2005, 10:02 AM
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Oh he may have missed shots, but I am repeating what I have witnessed commentators say on the BBC.. where Tiger has been missing from numerous tournaments this year.

Hes a good player, but no better than anyone else. He just tends to be more consistent & doesn't let a bad shot ro=uin a round.. And a 72 is dismal for Tiger, in comparison with how his supporters would have us think he plays... Hes a good, maybe great player, but far from infalable & many of his supporters seem to forget & ignore his bad moments.
ummmm....Just what Tour are you watching??? "He's a good player, but no better than anyone else"....you are obviously allowed to state your opinion, but I tend to believe what the rest of the guys who play against him say....that he is the best, hands down. John Cook made the comment that the only reason there is a "Big 4" this year is b/c one of them is only playing mediocre golf right now....Lets see...Tiger 10 majors....Mickelson, Singh, Els, Goosen...9 combined....
I sure hope you are posting just to get a good laugh....if not, I am having one reading your post....SS
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Old July 20th, 2005, 10:09 AM
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Why couldn't he dominate like in 2000??? It has only been about a year and a half since he STARTED w/ Hank Haney....another year or two of REALLY getting his new swing comfortable...add that to his obvious ability to putt better than he has recently and look out...maybe not a single season slam, but he could add 2 majors a year for the next few years...like Monty said after finishing second...."the next 3 years should be interesting" (referring to chasing Jacks Major record)...
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Old July 20th, 2005, 11:45 AM
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Sean O'Hair's up to #47, what a year he's having. Cambo still going strong up #21
I'm really impressed with how this young man has handle himself this year. He doesn't seem overwhelmed by the level of competition and he did very well in his first British Open.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 02:19 PM
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Hes a good player, but no better than anyone else. He just tends to be more consistent & doesn't let a bad shot ro=uin a round.. And a 72 is dismal for Tiger, in comparison with how his supporters would have us think he plays... Hes a good, maybe great player, but far from infalable & many of his supporters seem to forget & ignore his bad moments.
??? "Tiger is no better than anyone else" ???

He's played in only 14 tourney's this year (only 2/3 of what Vijay's played in) yet he's number 1 on the money list and you say he's not better than anyone else? He's number 1 in the World Rankings for a very good reason; he wins and places higher than anyone else on average.

He's placed in the top 3 in 8 out of his 14 tourneys, won 4 of them including 2 majors. He's not only better than "anyone" else, he's better than EVERYONE else.

??? "72 is dismal for Tiger" ??? "For Tiger" and yet you say he's no better than anyone else. Do you see the irony?

Maybe you don't play golf. If you did, you'd know that even a great player misses a shot every once in a while. Even the greatest player ever (Tiger and/or Jack) misses a golf shot every once in a while.

Your comments are very confusing to me.

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Old July 20th, 2005, 04:34 PM
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Tiger's better than everyone else in the world. Anyone that doesn't agree with that statement either doesn't like the guy or doesn't know squat about golf.

Tiger=10 major championships
Retief, Phil, Ernie and Vijay = 9 major championships

Numbers don't lie.
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