it was interesting listening to the interview with Jerry Kelley the other day. He was near the top and after his round he said the strategy for the next round was just to hit fairways and go for the middle of the green. He felt he didn't have the game(distance I presume) to go for the stick. I don't believe he was able to keep it in the fairway, thus he dropped back.
No doubt about it. It does take length, but whoever's hitting fairways for that week has the best chance, but length is still the overriding factor.
imho,lol
stagday
btw, congrats to Phil. his shot out of the rough at 18 to within 2-3 feet was topnotch and that's what makes champions.(but he was there in 2,lol)
Baltusrol was considerably different than Whistling Straits in that players weren't able to get it close from the deep rough this week. Last year VJ was last in fairways hit and first in greens in regulation. That wasn't going to happen at Baltusrol!
Missing fairways, short putts, and not executing the shots needed to win when you need them, are "physical" mistakes which are sometimes brought on by the mental pressure you mentioned.
I guess what I was trying to say, which didn't come out as clearly as it was in my mind, is that a lot of guys try to say that their poor play was from outside forces (bad breaks, etc). But when that many guys are messing up, it's more about the mental side of things than anything I think.
Sorry to be chiming in so late to this thread, but one of the most entertaining moments on TNT's coverage was Charles Barkley's guest appearance on Friday(?). Since he's friendly with and has played with both Tiger and Phil, his assessments of both were interesting, faulting Phil for his physical conditioning but praising his natural talent.
There was some discussion of Charles' decision to give up golf after his next-to-last finish in a recent celebrity tournament in which he finished behind Cheryl Ladd. Some video of Charles' swing was featured too. (Wow! What an awful swing! And this from a guy who has received lessons from some of the best instructors in golf!)
Most interesting was Barkley's comment that "When you can't beat the girls and the smart guys, it's time to give up sports."
Last edited by leaguegolf : August 18th, 2005 at 08:48 AM.
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I have all but given up watching golf coverage on TV just for the fact of to much Tiger and no one else, they would rather show him taking off his glove and handing stevie his club talking in hushed tones than his playing partner actually hitting the ball.
Or someone in contention.........I watch a movie and check the scores on line lately than regular coverage.
I have all but given up watching golf coverage on TV just for the fact of to much Tiger and no one else, they would rather show him taking off his glove and handing stevie his club talking in hushed tones than his playing partner actually hitting the ball.
Or someone in contention.........I watch a movie and check the scores on line lately than regular coverage.
Well keep a couple of things in mind. One, Tiger only plays in about 20 to 25 tournaments a year max. Which means there are plenty of other tournaments where Tiger is not playing and other guys can shine. Two, if Tigers is not in serious contention he tends to get less T.V. time than when he is in the hunt. Three, even when he not in contention for a win Tiger is without a doubt the most charismatic and electrifying player on the PGA Tour. The fact of the matter is television ratings are higher in tournaments where Tiger players and even higher on weekends where he's in contention. In fact his run during the 2000 to 2002 time frame had a direct effect on the value of the television contracts negotiated by the PGA Tour. And it's also playing a role in this years round of negotiations.
Well keep a couple of things in mind. One, Tiger only plays in about 20 to 25 tournaments a year max. Which means there are plenty of other tournaments where Tiger is not playing and other guys can shine. Two, if Tigers is not in serious contention he tends to get less T.V. time than when he is in the hunt. Three, even when he not in contention for a win Tiger is without a doubt the most charismatic and electrifying player on the PGA Tour. The fact of the matter is television ratings are higher in tournaments where Tiger players and even higher on weekends where he's in contention. In fact his run during the 2000 to 2002 time frame had a direct effect on the value of the television contracts negotiated by the PGA Tour. And it's also playing a role in this years round of negotiations.
Actually, he had an effect on the negotiations before 2000 as well. The so-called "Tiger effect" for TV ratings started at the 1997 Masters and ever since the PGA Tour has been able to negotiate bigger and better contracts with sponsors based on Tiger. They struggled last year though b/c of him struggling with his game.
August 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM
That wasn't going to happen at Baltusrol! 
(Wow! What an awful swing! And this from a guy who has received lessons from some of the best instructors in golf!)
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