Actually, if you wanna get more technical, it was essentially an 8-iron. Tiger said at the PGA Championship that his lofts have not changed on his irons since he was 14, and that his clubs are usually 1 more than they would be if he had upgraded to newer lofts. For example, his 7 iron is the loft of most other players' 8 irons. Definitley a great shot, but what was more impressive was the putt. He wasn't putting very well all day and to make that was pretty good considering some of his other "efforts" on the green throughout the day.
He seemed to be the only one that came back even a little at the end. It seemed everyone was falling off. Vijay was the only player that made a positive run on the backside.
Tiger did stay with it and that long putt that seemed to take a 90* left hand turn right at the cup was awesome. I love watchin' that guy play. I don't think he took a full swing with any of his iron shots on the back nine. . .
Actually, if you wanna get more technical, it was essentially an 8-iron. Tiger said at the PGA Championship that his lofts have not changed on his irons since he was 14, and that his clubs are usually 1 more than they would be if he had upgraded to newer lofts. For example, his 7 iron is the loft of most other players' 8 irons. Definitley a great shot, but what was more impressive was the putt. He wasn't putting very well all day and to make that was pretty good considering some of his other "efforts" on the green throughout the day.
I have a hard time believing that. Tiger is very long, but I don't think he is that long. If that were true then the 5 iron he hit today 230 yards technically would be a 6 iron. Unless you heard this straight from his mouth I am sceptical.
A great win for Tiger...while no one lit it up on the back side, like Phil last week at Baltusrol, he played a solid back nine on a very tough course and came away a winner. 45 wins and counting....
In reference to those 45 wins, the majors, WGCs and Players Championship are significant because they represent the surefire gathering of the best players in the world. In his professional career, Tiger has played those 8 events (I exclude the team WGC event) a total of 65 times...and has won 20 of them. That's a 31% win ratio , better than it is in regular tour events. The man just brings his best when the fields are the best.
I have a hard time believing that. Tiger is very long, but I don't think he is that long. If that were true then the 5 iron he hit today 230 yards technically would be a 6 iron. Unless you heard this straight from his mouth I am sceptical.
He mentioned it in a press conference....he said his 9 iron has 45 degrees of loft. I don't know the specifics of modern club design, so I don't know if that's a normal 9 iron or not...but I did read and see it.
I have a hard time believing that. Tiger is very long, but I don't think he is that long. If that were true then the 5 iron he hit today 230 yards technically would be a 6 iron. Unless you heard this straight from his mouth I am sceptical.
Well, I've been having a hard time understanding how Tiger, who used to be 2 irons longer than guys like Phil has all of a sudden in the last 4 or 5 years become only 1 longer. His clubhead speed is around 20 MPH faster, which I think is usually the equivalent of 2 clubs if I'm not mistaken. Phil said it a couple of years back. Tiger doesn't exactly have the most upgraded technology. Not until last year did he finally upgrade to a graphite shafted driver with a bigger clubface. If you remember, Tiger hit a 6-iron at the Bell Canadien from a bunker in 2000 that went 220 yards (distance to the pin was 215 and he flew it 5 yards past or so), and that was a 6-iron according to HIS clubs. By other players' clubs, that might be a 7-iron nowadays.
I saw it on the Golf Channel, straight from his mouth during the news conference for the PGA Championship.
I didn't get to see the end of it today. It was getting pretty brutal before I had to shut it off. Everyone was trying to give it away. I don't remember Tiger EVER being two clubs longer that the big hitters though.
I didn't get to see the end of it today. It was getting pretty brutal before I had to shut it off. Everyone was trying to give it away. I don't remember Tiger EVER being two clubs longer that the big hitters though.
I do, go watch footage from 97-98. Mickelson, Singh, and Els were all 2 clubs shorter. John Daly has always been right around equal with Tiger's distance, if not even longer than Tiger.
He mentioned it in a press conference....he said his 9 iron has 45 degrees of loft. I don't know the specifics of modern club design, so I don't know if that's a normal 9 iron or not...but I did read and see it.
So its like a half club. Normal 9 iron is 43 degrees. Usually 4 degrees is one club difference.
Thats cool if he said it. I must have missed it. I stand corrected...just didn't seem possible to me.
So if Tigers club's are essentially one less club than normal. Are you trying to tell me that the 9-iron that Tiger hit out of the rough as his second shot on the par-5 at the Western Open out of the rough from 190yds was really a PW!!! David Feherty was right, he really is a freak of nature.
So if Tigers club's are essentially one less club than normal. Are you trying to tell me that the 9-iron that Tiger hit out of the rough as his second shot on the par-5 at the Western Open out of the rough from 190yds was really a PW!!! David Feherty was right, he really is a freak of nature.
He is indeed. 1997 Masters I remember seeing him hit PW from 160+ routinely. Now, if that's with a little bit different lofts, it coulda really been a SW. LOL. He's scaled back since then to control his spin, and even with that he still struggles with controlling it from time to time.
Whether Tiger is hitting 1+ or 2+ clubs over the competition is really moot; He hits what he hits; I proffer what is being overlooked is his supremely dedicated father, mentor and coach, his Dad who launched him on his laudable career, as well as Tiger himself seeking out and retaining the best coaches in the business.
What should give us all pause to reflect upon is Tiger's vehemently opined words that he still feels he is not yet at the peak of his game; A freak, perhaps, but all of the most laudable champions of any competitive venue share a not only a similar calling, but display the same, more than mortal drive...One need to look no further than Lance Armstrong
On an another note; please pray for the family of Thomas Herrion, the 49'ers guard who literally gave it all on the gridiron...May we all never lose sight of what really matters...
August 21st, 2005, 09:33 PM
, better than it is in regular tour events. The man just brings his best when the fields are the best. 
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