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Old August 28th, 2005, 10:51 PM
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Nationwide Tour Promotion to PGA Tour

Has a player ever received the three win promotion and not taken the opportunity?

I could see a player who has some big debts to pay off possibly staying back to earn some "for sure money" . Go on the PGA tour and you will face some missed cuts for sure.

Has this ever happened that a player refused the promotion?


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Old August 29th, 2005, 01:38 AM
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Not that I know of. there's only ever been about 4 guys that have won a battlefield promotion. No-ones turned it down, why would they, the reason they play the Natiowide in the first place is to use it as a stepping stone to the PGA
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Old August 29th, 2005, 11:53 AM
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I don't know of anyone nor why they'd do so either. 10th place money on the PGA Tour is sometimes more than 1st place money on the Nationwide Tour.
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Old August 29th, 2005, 12:00 PM
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No knowledge here either, only that they may take a few weeks or so to juggle the schedule, etc...and find the right tournament to start/recontinue their PGA Tour career.
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Old August 29th, 2005, 12:56 PM
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I don't know of anyone nor why they'd do so either. 10th place money on the PGA Tour is sometimes more than 1st place money on the Nationwide Tour.
It's also a whole lot easier to win on the Nationwide Tour than it is to finish 10th in most PGA Tour events. :nodsmiley
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Old August 29th, 2005, 07:26 PM
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It's also a whole lot easier to win on the Nationwide Tour than it is to finish 10th in most PGA Tour events. :nodsmiley
Not always. Given, the players may not be quite as good on the Nationwide Tour but to win, you pretty much have to shoot -20 or better. On the PGA Tour (and Nationwide as well, to an extent), if you make the weekend and have one hot round on Saturday or Sunday, you've got a great chance for a top 10. Of course, getting that great round is a little tougher on the big show.
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Old August 29th, 2005, 08:12 PM
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Not always. Given, the players may not be quite as good on the Nationwide Tour but to win, you pretty much have to shoot -20 or better. On the PGA Tour (and Nationwide as well, to an extent), if you make the weekend and have one hot round on Saturday or Sunday, you've got a great chance for a top 10. Of course, getting that great round is a little tougher on the big show.
I'm simply comparing the Nationwide winners to the PGA Tour top 10'ers. -20 under par might win you a whole lot of nationwide events but they aren't going to shoot that on PGA Tour courses. If they could, they wouldn't be playing in the minor leagues.

Name the last 10 winners on the Nationwide Tour and compare that list to the quality of play of the 10 PGA Tour players that have the most top tens this year. Finishing in the top 10 in a PGA Tour event is a lot farther away from winning a Nationwide event than most people realize. To finish in the top 10 of a PGA Tour event you have to beat 146 of the top players in the world, not a 155 minor leaguers.
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Old August 29th, 2005, 08:18 PM
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I was simply referring to the pressure of knowing you probably have to shoot 67 or better every round in an event to have a shot at a victory. On the PGA Tour, in many events, a 72-70-66-70 for a 278 will probably get you a top 10...the pressure to go low in each round isn't quite as stifling. However, it is a given that it's much easier to shoot those 67s on the Nationwide setups.
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Old August 30th, 2005, 01:52 AM
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You're both right. The difference in the caliber of golf between the PGA Tour and the Nationwide Tour is significant...a big next step. But the gap is closing, imo...these guys who get their battlefield promotion may be a little stunned at first but basically they are ready to go right out of the gate. There is undoubtedly a lot of work and adjustments to make when they move up but the "minor leaguers" are contending quicker than ever in the "major leaguers" events and we see more and more big boys splitting time between the tours when things aren't going as well as they would like. PGA Tour golfers are getting better as a whole...Nationwide Tour golfers are, too, only faster, imo.

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Old August 30th, 2005, 02:46 AM
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Seven players in the history of the Nationwide Tour have accomplished a battlefield promotion, 3 of whom were at the Cox Classic.
http://www.coxclassic.com/

Also, check out some of the names on this list that didn't get battlefield promotions...or even 3 wins ever, for that matter...a lot of these guys are contenders to this day.

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Old August 30th, 2005, 02:55 PM
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To finish in the top 10 of a PGA Tour event you have to beat 146 of the top players in the world, not a 155 minor leaguers.
Actually not every PGA event has the top numerically ranked players i.e. the Buick Championship at Hartford, the B.C Open or the John Deere classic. So to finish in the top ten on a PGA event you just have beat the majority of guys in that particular event. Which is why world ranking points are calculated based on the strength of the field in a given tournament as well as, a golfers performance in that event.

A tenth place finish at the The Masters carries a lot more weight than tenth place finish at the 84 Lumber Classic.
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Old August 30th, 2005, 03:30 PM
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You just can't turn down the money on the PGA tour vs. the Nationwide tour. Just last week, The top 15 players in the PGA event made more than the winner of the Nationwide event. Placing 60 in the PGA event made more than placing 16 in the Nationwide event. I would think that you would want to maximize your money when your game is on and you are playing well.

If you are playing lights out, do you want the chance to place 1st in a PGA event and win 770K, or blow away the field in a Nationwide event and win 81K?
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Old August 30th, 2005, 05:40 PM
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Actually not every PGA event has the top numerically ranked players i.e. the Buick Championship at Hartford, the B.C Open or the John Deere classic. So to finish in the top ten on a PGA event you just have beat the majority of guys in that particular event. Which is why world ranking points are calculated based on the strength of the field in a given tournament as well as, a golfers performance in that event.

A tenth place finish at the The Masters carries a lot more weight than tenth place finish at the 84 Lumber Classic.
I know that the all of the top players are not entered in every PGA Tour event but you still have to beat 146 of the top players in the world to finish 10th. That's certainly not the case playing on the Nationwide Tour.
Even if only one or two of the top 25 are playing in a PGA Tour event those that do play are ranked considerably higher than any Nationwide Tour player.
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