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Old August 30th, 2005, 09:40 PM
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Deutsche Bank Championship

May as well extend droogy's break a little longer, since he missed out on making a thread this past week....

This week is the Deutsche Bank Championship, beginning Friday and culminating on Monday. It will be played (mother nature permitting) on the TPC of Boston, an Arnold Palmer design stretching 7415 yards at par 71. The Boston area supposedly had a good bit of rain today, and will probably continue to do so as the remnants of Katrina move through later this week. Given the likely wet conditions, I'd expect longer hitters to fare well, and the receptive greens should probably mean slightly lower scoring this year (the event's first two winners, Adam Scott and Vijay Singh, shot 264 and 268, respectively, although I think conditions were a little damp both those times as well). Oddly enough, however, neither of the past champs will be playing this week....Scott is taking time off to work on his game and I just looked on pgatour.com to see that Vijay withdrew with back spasms incurred while playing table tennis with his son. Too bad for Vijay, as the Fall Finish (this week is the first event of that section of the year) is typically when he shines, and I would have expected him to fare very well this week. Anyway, a pretty decent field has gathered, and I would expect a good event nonetheless.

So, a few questions about this week's event:

1. Will the event make it 72 holes? Given the high probability of heavy rains from Katrina, and today's practice already washed out, I don't think this is a given.

2. Who will be the winner?

3. What will be the winning score be?

4. Which player in the field from outside the top 50 could sneak up and surprise people with a good showing?

Just four simple ones, since this is not a major or anything...should be an exciting week if the weather cooperates!
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Old August 30th, 2005, 09:45 PM
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My picks:

1. Yes...but they'll have to play catchup after a delayed start to round one.
2. I was going to go with Vijay, but since he's no longer in the field, I go to option #2....Tiger Woods (not a bad second option, eh? )
3. 269 (-15)
4. He played well in this event last year, so why not go with him again?? David Duval.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 12:43 PM
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I wonder if its logistically possible to change the tournament start to Thursday, if they are expecting heavy rains. Starting on Friday for the holiday weekend is a nice idea, and great for TV viewers, but a potential Tuesday finish could cause problems for next week's event, whatever that is.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 12:46 PM
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I wonder if its logistically possible to change the tournament start to Thursday, if they are expecting heavy rains. Starting on Friday for the holiday weekend is a nice idea, and great for TV viewers, but a potential Tuesday finish could cause problems for next week's event, whatever that is.
I doubt it. Plus, as we've seen, the TV execs are never keen on moving the proceedings up a bit, even if there's a good possibility that rain will prevent things from finishing on time.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 03:50 PM
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Weather.com's forecast for Norton, MA (where the TPC of Boston is located) for the next few days:

Tonight: Scattered strong storms (the remnants of Katrina passing to our West)
Thursday: Partly cloudy, 86
Friday: Sunny, 86
Saturday: Sunny, 81
Sunday: Sunny, 76
Monday: Sunny, 76
Tuesday: Sunny, 80

The only weather concerns would be how quickly this relatively new course will drain and the effect of the last two days' weather on the receptivity of the greens. So my anwers would be:

1. Yes. 72 holes
2. Tiger, of course.
3. -21
4. Brad Faxon. Big win last week, local guy (Rhode Island), familiar with this course, will have the crowds behind him.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 06:28 PM
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Brad Faxon has loads of great courses right in R.I. he plays when he's home. So I don't think he's very familiar with TPC of Boston any more than anyone else.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 08:15 PM
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Brad Faxon has loads of great courses right in R.I. he plays when he's home. So I don't think he's very familiar with TPC of Boston any more than anyone else.
I would say that, given that he's probably only 30 minutes or so from there when at home, he's probably played thet TPC of Boston a few times more than the average PGA Tour player in this event. However, will it give him any advantage? That remains to be seen. Tiger Woods played Riviera many many times prior to the beginning of his PGA Tour career yet the LA/Nissan Open has been one of the few events to elude him in his career.
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Old August 31st, 2005, 08:36 PM
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Oddly, while I thought a decent field was assembled, that is not the case. Only Tiger from the world top 10 is in the field, and the next highest ranked is Davis Love III at 15th. Only 3 top 25 and 7 top 50 players are in attendance, which is the same number of top 25ers and one more top 50er than last week, which was generally accepted as one of the weakest fields of the year. How soon can you move that Tour Championship up again commissioner Finchem?

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Old August 31st, 2005, 11:48 PM
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It is a rather weak-ish field this week. And that's too bad. Boston's a great sports town and I rather like this new Arnold Palmer-designed TPC course. I've read that Arnold has been working with the folks who run the joint in attempts to kind of tighten up the course a tad....make it a little more demanding off the tees.

I also seem to remember some commentary, last year, as to the relatively poor drainage at this venue. Don't know if anything can or has been done in this area.

I'm keeping my eyes on Jonathan Byrd and Zach Johnson. Jonathan desperately needs a top ten and Zach seems to be back on some good form. He has been very steady in both his two years on TOUR.

It will also be interesting to see how Tjaart van der Walt and Justin Rose follow up on their finest TOUR performances. I hope another South African, Brenden Pappas, has something nice in store this week. He is currently 181st on TOUR in earnings and could really use a couple hundred thousand this week. Because of the recent rains I expect low scoring on very receptive greens.
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 03:32 PM
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Well, looks like Tiger Woods is making a charge down the leaderboard today in round two. Already one over for the day and after hitting it in the water on the 6th, probably going to drop at least one more. Olin Browne is now in the lead at -10...Olin Browne, Jason Gore on the board...what is this the US Open?
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 09:50 PM
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Robert Allenby has put himself in a very good position. Remember, Allenby led at Congressional at the halfway point, only to slowly fade over the weekend.

Robert hasn't contended very often this year and, in those few times he's had a good position through 36 or 54 holes, he hasn't done a good job of bringing it home. We'll have to watch for that over the next couple days.
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Old September 5th, 2005, 06:09 PM
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I've been watching on and off all day and surprise, surprise..........I haven't seen one shot by Tiger! How rare is that not to see Tiger on a final day?
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Old September 5th, 2005, 07:14 PM
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I've been watching on and off all day and surprise, surprise..........I haven't seen one shot by Tiger! How rare is that not to see Tiger on a final day?
LOL yeah. Wasn't he done before the coverage even came on? And even being done, he didn't have any "highlights" that would even be worthy of being shown by ABC. I only watched the coverage for a couple of holes on Saturday just to see why his score was so bad. Looked like his swing was going upright way too fast, and not only that, but he was going well past parallel (much more than normal).

Looks like Olin Browne wins the tournament. Congrats to Olin. Well done. After his US Open final round collapse, it held him back from making the money he needs to stay on Tour. Well, looks like he's got a 2-year exemption and he's going over the $1 million mark for the season with $990,000 for his victory this week. Once again, I say congrats to Olin for hanging in there after the debacle in the final round of the US Open. Well done and well earned. :nodsmiley
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Old September 5th, 2005, 08:02 PM
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Gee, I'm a magician! I mention Tiger.........and POOF! TTUfirebird2008 appears!
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Old September 5th, 2005, 08:36 PM
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Gee, I'm a magician! I mention Tiger.........and POOF! TTUfirebird2008 appears!

way to go Rocky. anything else in that hat of yours?

kudo's to Olin. wasn't sure he could hang on, but the birdie on the 17th was superb. i'm sure he will sleep well tonight.

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