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Old September 28th, 2005, 10:06 AM
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Apparently both Fred Funk and Fred Couples want to make the team. Fred Couples stated when he was interview after the President's Cup that he was planning on playing more so he has a better change of making the team.

Unless they change the rules, I don't think there will be any substituting of those that earned their place with people they want to pick out. If the young guns are so good, they will have earned their place anyway.
Wanting to make the team and making the team are two different things. There's still a year left to garner points, and I don't think anyone here is saying that they're going to kick someone off who earned their way in. BTW, that last statement is rather ironic coming from someone who is an unabashed supporter of young Ms. Wie.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 10:14 AM
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So, I don't understand your remark about Fred Couples having a reputation of folding under Ryder Cup matchplay pressure
When Fred played Christy O'Connor at the Belfry, he hit a magnificent drive down the 18th.Christy hit a famous two iron into the heart of the green. Freddie had a gentle nine iron in. He blocked it ,fluffed his chip and lost the hole at a crucial stage in the match. That his talent has only produced one major also help perpetuate the reputation.

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Old September 28th, 2005, 10:26 AM
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Fred Couples is 7,9,4 with foursomes being his worse category. Tiger Woods is 7,11,2. Each has played 20 matches, so there is an equal comparison. Tiger's worse category is four ball.
So, I don't understand your remark about Fred Couples having a reputation of folding under Ryder Cup matchplay pressure.
So the point is that Couples and Woods have an equally BAD record in Ryder Cups...
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Old September 28th, 2005, 12:26 PM
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From a european point of view,Funk and Perry are not making us quake in our boots. As much as everyone loves Freddie Couples ,he has a reputation of folding under Ryder Cup matchplay pressure .
Those three will not be on the team.
neither will Love. replaced by Crane, O'Hair ? ?.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 12:32 PM
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Those three will not be on the team.
neither will Love. replaced by Crane, O'Hair ? ?.
Love is only in his early 40s, still playing reasonably good golf, and with his experience, I can't see any way that he'd be left off the team (other than injury).
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Old September 28th, 2005, 12:36 PM
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Excellent news, DL3 is a class act and has huge experience,we 'd love to see him missing. Especially if Crane zzzzzzzzzz's his way around driving his partner crazy, and O Hair brings his father as a caddy.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 01:15 PM
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Wanting to make the team and making the team are two different things. There's still a year left to garner points, and I don't think anyone here is saying that they're going to kick someone off who earned their way in. BTW, that last statement is rather ironic coming from someone who is an unabashed supporter of young Ms. Wie.
I just wanted to mention the comment that Fred Couples made that he wanted to make the team and was planning on playing more so he would remain the in the top ten. I didn't say he definitely would make the team nor did I say he wouldn't.

Why is it ironic to state that there are rules in place and unless they change the rules, they won't be picking and choosing and replacing those who have earned their place. Unless I read some of the earlier posts wrong or misunderstood what was stated, I thought someone said they SHOULD replace several of the players as they are too old or aren't good enough. What has that to do with Michelle Wie? She gets exemptions into tournaments just as there are lots of others that do so too. She wasn't invited to the Solheim Cup as they have the same rules. I never suggested that she should be picked since the rules also state the players have to be members and earn their place and like the Ryder Cup, the captain had two picks.

There will be two captains picks and someone who has NOT earned their way in can be picked and maybe Tom Lehman will pick one of the folks that have been mentioned.

As for being an unabashed supporter, I am a supporter of Michelle, just as I am a supporter of Annika and Paula and a large number of other players who play. I disagree with folks when they post things that aren't true or not substantiated by facts, and if that means unabashed. then I guess that's what I am.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 01:19 PM
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So the point is that Couples and Woods have an equally BAD record in Ryder Cups...
Actually, Woods has been touted as having a good Ryder Cup record, but I don't think it's overwhelming good either, but he wasn't pointed out as having a reputation for folding. There are, however, very few American players who have a much better record. There are quite a few European players who have a much higher win rate.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 02:42 PM
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I don't see DL3 taking a big enough tumble to fall out of the top 10. His game has been showing signs of rebounding lately, too. I love Couples, but with his back and putting problems(when did that one start ?) I think it's going to be quite a struggle for him to hang in there. He's the only one likely to drop out because of his own play, IMO. Funk plays such a heavy schedule and will still have that Player's Championship on his record. It'll be up to the guys behind him and Perry to come up and take a spot.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 07:05 PM
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I guess I'm the only one that thinks DL III is tired looking and has lost his zip. I have always liked him and supported him but I just think he'll fade quickly next year. And if it means anything I think the same fate awaits VJ he just looks like he has lost the will to win.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 11:36 PM
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Perry may still make it, but I agree about the two Freds...they're just getting too far up there to make a good run at it IMO. Verplank is a little up and down, so he's iffy too I think. I'm thinking Zach Johnson makes it, Leonard makes the top 10, and Charles Howell III has to be ready to make a move and make the team. Outside shots to O'Hair, Taylor and Crane.
I was thinking the very same thing.
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Old September 28th, 2005, 11:45 PM
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...I think the same fate awaits VJ he just looks like he has lost the will to win.
I don't see that. What I see from Vijay is massive frustration. Vijay really is having quite a fantastic season. He has finished inside the top 13 in his last nine TOUR starts...and he can't hole a putt.

It just has to be mind-numbingly frustrating as heck to be striking the ball so wonderfully and missing just about every putt you look at. And Vijay has nine top-three finishes this year!
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Old September 29th, 2005, 12:04 AM
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I don't see that. What I see from Vijay is massive frustration. Vijay really is having quite a fantastic season. He has finished inside the top 13 in his last nine TOUR starts...and he can't hole a putt.

It just has to be mind-numbingly frustrating as heck to be striking the ball so wonderfully and missing just about every putt you look at. And Vijay has nine top-three finishes this year!

Vijay has struggled with his putter for years. He also has never been reluctant to try ANYTHING that might improve it. I think he'll work it out for at least the short term and in time to continually contend for the Big Ones for the foreseeable future.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 05:56 AM
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Di MArco seems to have started early
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Old September 29th, 2005, 11:27 AM
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Di MArco seems to have started early
Although I didn't catch DiMarco's "hate" comments, I find it amusing that Westwood would have something to say about it. Where was Westwood's mouth when Paul Casey started this sordid "hatred" business?

While it's good to finally see some fire from an American team member (there's that oxymoron again ) I'd much rather the US team seethe quietly and let their clubs do the talking come next September. I like the fact that the Euro's relish bashing our brains in and if more American Ryder Cuppers felt that way it would make for a better competition. Afterwards, regardless of who wins, they could all enjoy a beer or two........but sadly, I just don't see that happening.
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