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Old October 10th, 2005, 11:21 AM
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When Daly had a one shot lead with two to play, I just had a feeling there would be a playoff. Whenever Daly talks about Tiger, he puts him on such a pedestal. He really respects and admires Tiger, and in this case, I think it worked against him. In the playoff, he was half-defeated before the playoff even began, not only because he was facing Tiger head to head, but because he felt as though he blew the tournament with the 3-putt on 17.

The players that fare well against Tiger are the ones that don't gush over him in interviews... Singh and Bjorn come to mind.

Players like Els, Love, Mickelson and Daly who praise him so highly, seem resigned to the fact that they are playing for second.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 11:40 AM
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When Daly had a one shot lead with two to play, I just had a feeling there would be a playoff. Whenever Daly talks about Tiger, he puts him on such a pedestal. He really respects and admires Tiger, and in this case, I think it worked against him. In the playoff, he was half-defeated before the playoff even began, not only because he was facing Tiger head to head, but because he felt as though he blew the tournament with the 3-putt on 17.

The players that fare well against Tiger are the ones that don't gush over him in interviews... Singh and Bjorn come to mind.

Players like Els, Love, Mickelson and Daly who praise him so highly, seem resigned to the fact that they are playing for second.
Bjorn has praised Tiger probably just as much if not more than Els. I remember a few years ago Bjorn told a story about how Tiger was talking to him and another golfer about one of his scuba trips in the Caribbean. Bjorn told him, "Well don't get lost down there; our (meaning pro golfers) economic futures depend on you." Thomas just doesn't back down on the course, but I've heard him give Tiger plenty of praise. Now, Monty is one that could be added to your list of guys who back down. :nodsmiley
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Old October 10th, 2005, 12:15 PM
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I missed the playoff. I had another commitment. JD really coughed it up with that 3-putt on 17 and then to leave it short , right in the mouth on 18 . He really doesn't get in that position that often anymore. He even admitted gagging down the stretch during his last win. As for his his reaction towards Tiger, I think that the 2 of them really like each other... either that or they fake it real well. With Sergio & Monty in it too... some unexpected really good late season stuff.

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Old October 10th, 2005, 12:27 PM
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As for his his reaction towards Tiger, I think that the 2 of them really like each other... either that or they fake it real well.
I agree with that. They seemed to get along fairly well at the Battle at the Bridges earlier this year and I think Tiger got a kick out of John's one-upmanship off the tee this week, like driving #7 Thursday and the huge drives both hit on the first playoff hole. Both guys are exciting to watch, and it was sad to see John miss that near-gimme. One of them making a birdie (or eagle, had they come back around to a par 5 or driveable par 4) would have been the perfect way for it to end.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM
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That a boy Tiger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, can we find that thread with estimated tiger wins..... all you tiger haters were wrong.....

I knew right away when I saw Daly had iron in his hand on 16 that he was gonna loose (in orginal round not play off where he took driver).... Iron isnt daly's game, I think if he would have taken driver on 16, there would have been a birdie made.... tournament over right there, but It cost him.

And i thought I ****** at putting

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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:04 PM
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Bjorn told him, "Well don't get lost down there; our (meaning pro golfers) economic futures depend on you." Thomas just doesn't back down on the course, but I've heard him give Tiger plenty of praise. Now, Monty is one that could be added to your list of guys who back down. :nodsmiley
That is a great line from Bjorn. And yes, I agree, Monty would not match up well head to head vs. Tiger.

It was funny how Monty was getting annoyed yesterday, when its his turn to hit his approaches, and Tiger's security and photographers were a bit slow clearing the green area. It's because of Tiger that the purses are what they are, and that Monty's missed putt on 18 was worth over $159,000!
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:17 PM
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Daly's an excellent putter, don't judge him on this tourney alone. He analyses the putt and then steps up and hits it. He doesn't over-analyse the putt once he's over the ball. This has worked well enough for him to win plenty of tourney's and 2 majors. He was 2nd best this week, that's very, very, very good.

Bummer he missed the 3 footer though as that was not a good way to end the tourney. It was a 3 footer by the way, not a 2 footer and not a near gimmi as mentioned here a few times. Most of the people I golf with on a regular basis would miss that putt 1 out of 3 times (with no pressure on them).
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:38 PM
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Daly lamented in his post round press conference about his lack of confidence in his putter. I wasn't sure if he was referring to "his" putting, or the brand of putter he's currently using. Nobody likes to lose by missing a very short putt (ask VJ about that ) but Big John will get it straightened out. When it's all said and done, Daly has to be happy with a second place finish, with that field, on that course.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:51 PM
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Yeah, it's definitely ironic that on a course which wasn't all that long and seemed to really favor finess guys over power guys, the two in the playoff were the two biggest hitters (well, maybe Stenson could be included in that group) in the field.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:57 PM
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Daly doesn't seem to let little things bother him, but I wonder if the crowd scurrying to the next tee while he was lining up his three footer affected him. It seemed like there was a lot of background noise while he was putting, and even the camera showed Tiger prior to the second putt, showing that he was not moving... not only was he not taking anything for granted, he was showing the proper etiquette.

I read that Daly handed his putter to someone in the gallery as he walked off the green.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 03:12 PM
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Daly lamented in his post round press conference about his lack of confidence in his putter. I wasn't sure if he was referring to "his" putting, or the brand of putter he's currently using. Nobody likes to lose by missing a very short putt (ask VJ about that ) but Big John will get it straightened out. When it's all said and done, Daly has to be happy with a second place finish, with that field, on that course.
It's either a equipment problem or a technique issue. Let's lot forget that during this year's PGA Championship Daly actually ditched his putter during the third round and putted using a sand wedge.

Personally I feel for the guy. He played great and there isn't a golfer alive that hasn't missed a short put like that, granted the stakes may not have been as high.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 03:23 PM
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It's either a equipment problem or a technique issue. Let's lot forget that during this year's PGA Championship Daly actually ditched his putter during the third round and putted using a sand wedge.
I think Daly has always been an above PGA Tour average PGA putter (I'm not a stats guy so the numbers may not bear this out but you don't win majors without being able to putt) but he said he's struggled this year with both the putter and his confidence. I'm not sure which brand/model putter he's been using but you can bet he'll be changing that soon.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 03:42 PM
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league, he uses Dunlop I'm pretty sure. He's had issues with the epoxy messing up on him quite a bit this year (like 8 or more times, including once earlier this week). He also had some issues with the loft of his putter. I think his problem on those two short putts that he missed was that he didn't take his time like Tiger usually does. Usually, this strategy works out for JD but I think the pressure got to him a bit and maybe if he'd taken his time to read the subtle breaks of those putts he would have made them.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 03:59 PM
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league, he uses Dunlop I'm pretty sure. He's had issues with the epoxy messing up on him quite a bit this year (like 8 or more times, including once earlier this week). He also had some issues with the loft of his putter. I think his problem on those two short putts that he missed was that he didn't take his time like Tiger usually does. Usually, this strategy works out for JD but I think the pressure got to him a bit and maybe if he'd taken his time to read the subtle breaks of those putts he would have made them.
Does anyone know if Daly was still using a Dunlop model yesterday?
Daly never has been one to take much time over putts, short or otherwise. That's his style and personal rhythm and slowing down is usually just as disastrous as speeding it up. He missed a short putt.....who among us hasn't?
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Old October 10th, 2005, 04:14 PM
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Does anyone know if Daly was still using a Dunlop model yesterday?
Not sure but it had a red grip.

Like many others I enjoyed watching the playoff, but would rather see a birdie win instead of a bogie loss by either Woods or Daly.
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