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Old October 7th, 2005, 08:22 PM
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Not Much Success from 2004 Graduating Nationwide Class

After all of the hoopla surrounding the success of the 2003 Nationwide Class, this year's class has only two assured of a tour card (Charles warren and James driscoll). Ryuji Imada is ranked 112th, but slipping since his return on tour from (I guess an injury). Brendan Jones and Brett Wetterich still have shot at the top 125. Compare that with the success of the qualifying school grads (Sean O'Hair, Lucas Glover, Greg Owen, Jason Bohn, and Joey Snyder). Brian Davis should also make the top 125. This suggests that we should not consider giving more spots from the Nationwide tour and taking them from the qualifying school.
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Old October 7th, 2005, 08:40 PM
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What happened there is likely pure coincidence. I'd rather see more guys who've played well for an entire year and earned their way in, rather than more guys who get hot for one event and make their way in.
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Old October 7th, 2005, 08:53 PM
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The Plus on Q-School

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What happened there is likely pure coincidence. I'd rather see more guys who've played well for an entire year and earned their way in, rather than more guys who get hot for one event and make their way in.
is it allows players who just missed qualifying a legitimate chance to qualify. It alos allows people from the European or Japanese tour a chance to qualify who aren't quite good enough to play in the majors and don't want to play in the Nationwide tour (i.e. Carlos Franco, Todd Hamilton, Greg Owen, Brian Davis). Also, players like Lucas Glover and Jason Bohn were able to get back on tour via q-school after their success on the 2003 Nationwide tour and they are doing fine this year.

I think the success of the 2003 class was as much of an aberration as the failure of the 2004 class.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:17 PM
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This suggests that we should not consider giving more spots from the Nationwide tour and taking them from the qualifying school.
I disagree, the only thing it suggest is that this years crop of Nationwide Tour players just hasn't played as well as last years. Let's not forget that Jason Gore came from the Nationwide Tour this year to win a PGA tournament and Tim Couch had a very nice run at the Western Open.
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Old October 13th, 2005, 05:05 PM
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I disagree, the only thing it suggest is that this years crop of Nationwide Tour players just hasn't played as well as last years. Let's not forget that Jason Gore came from the Nationwide Tour this year to win a PGA tournament and Tim Couch had a very nice run at the Western Open.
Yeah, don't forget Jason Gore. His shining example shows why the Nationwide tour is so important.
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Old October 13th, 2005, 06:41 PM
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Yeah, don't forget Jason Gore. His shining example shows why the Nationwide tour is so important.
I also think one year is too short a time to tell if group of former Nationwide Tour players for that particular year are going to successful long term on the PGA Tour. From everything I've read even for experience players it takes a while to get used to the differences in courses, crowds and overall atmosphere. They don't call football, basketball or baseball players bust after one bad year. So why do the same to golfers?
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Old October 13th, 2005, 06:44 PM
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They don't call football, basketball or baseball players bust after one bad year.
You're right, they don't. They just send them to play for the Lions and Tigers.
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Old October 14th, 2005, 03:31 PM
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You're right, they don't. They just send them to play for the Lions and Tigers.
I feel for you!

It's amazing how some sports franchises just cannot get their act together.
But at least you've got the Red Wings and Pistons so you have some quality teams in your area.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 10:21 AM
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Just Like 2003

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I also think one year is too short a time to tell if group of former Nationwide Tour players for that particular year are going to successful long term on the PGA Tour. From everything I've read even for experience players it takes a while to get used to the differences in courses, crowds and overall atmosphere. They don't call football, basketball or baseball players bust after one bad year. So why do the same to golfers?
Well, everyone was talking about how successful the Nationwide Tour class of 2003 was. You can't usde 2003 just like you can't use 2004 to determine its success. I agree. I think both 2003 and 2004 was an exteme of the success of the Nationwide class. I think 2005 will be somewhere between these two classes. However, I must note that I think last year's leading money winner, Jimmy Walker is injured.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 10:27 AM
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Just showing that we shouldn't totally discount qualifying school...

Qualfiying school grads curetnly in top 125...

Sean O'Hair, Jason Bohn, Greg Owen, Jeff Brehaut, Lucas Glover, Joey Snyder III, Brain Davis, D.J. Trahan, Doug Barron, Dean Wilson, Craig Barlow..

Most of them either played in the PGA and were 126-150 from the previous season, or played the European tour, or the Nationwide tour and missed the top 20.

Nationwide Grads currently in top 125...

Charles Warren, James Driscoll, Ryuji Imada
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