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Old November 14th, 2005, 10:37 AM
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With only seven USA players in the top twenty and seven Europeans ,the traditional logic of USA being favourites for the Ryder Cup may be questioned.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 10:47 AM
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The media will report this as 6 of the top 12 on the WGR list are Americans and they'll find a way to make the US Team (again, I use that term loosely) a favorite "on paper."

We know better....don't we Lefty.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 11:24 AM
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I see 5 out of the top 10 as USA and only Sergio in there for the Europeans...(SMILING)...
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Old November 14th, 2005, 11:34 AM
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I see 5 out of the top 10 as USA and only Sergio in there for the Europeans...(SMILING)...
Kind of begs the question as to how 18.5-9.5 happened doesn't it?
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Old November 14th, 2005, 11:51 AM
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With so many extra points available on the USA Tour, I'm suprised that so many Europeans were allowed in the top 20.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 12:04 PM
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Kind of begs the question as to how 18.5-9.5 happened doesn't it?
I've often wondered that myself.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 12:28 PM
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That is a huge gap isn't it between #1 and #2 now.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 12:53 PM
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The Europeans are without a doubt the favorites in the 2006 Ryder Cup...anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. It'll be interesting to see if it changes the team's demeanor when they have to deal with questions about playing an inferior American team.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:00 PM
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Certainly agree, they've taken 4 of the last 5 matches!!!
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:02 PM
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With so many extra points available on the USA Tour, I'm suprised that so many Europeans were allowed in the top 20.
Is that really the case though? Howell gained 24 pts x2 for his win at the HSBC event this week...Bart Bryant got 28 pts x2 for his win at the Tour Championship last week. Both are limited field, top notch events on their respective tours. Many of the European Tour events are netting between 16-22 points for their winners, and while the stronger PGA Tour events are getting higher, your run-of-the-mill, John Deere Classic type events are lucky to pick up that many points. A weak field is a weak field, no matter which tour it's on.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:37 PM
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The points are calculated with reference to the strength of the field. Given that the top 10 play pretty much exclusively in the US (a couple occasionally stray, but not often) it's hardly surprising that the US events have the higher points. The lesser US events don't have them playing in them, hence they have the lower points tallies also.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:41 PM
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The points are calculated with reference to the strength of the field. Given that the top 10 play pretty much exclusively in the US (a couple occasionally stray, but not often) it's hardly surprising that the US events have the higher points. The lesser US events don't have them playing in them, hence they have the lower points tallies also.
You're absolutely right...however, our friend Lefty has been under the illusion that points should just be doled out for the heck of it, no matter whom is playing in the event. BTW, I think you'll see a spike in the number of top players who will play European Tour events in 2007, once the PGA Tour season is over. The shorter season will be to the benefit of the world tours, at least IMO.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:45 PM
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With only seven USA players in the top twenty and seven Europeans ,the traditional logic of USA being favourites for the Ryder Cup may be questioned.
Yes, not only is it questioned, but the Europeans are heavy favorites. They should win this next Ryder Cup with ease.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:50 PM
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You're absolutely right...however, our friend Lefty has been under the illusion that points should just be doled out for the heck of it, no matter whom is playing in the event. BTW, I think you'll see a spike in the number of top players who will play European Tour events in 2007, once the PGA Tour season is over. The shorter season will be to the benefit of the world tours, at least IMO.
Wildly OT I know, for which I apologise, but what have the gloaters to ignore been gloating about?
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:56 PM
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Certainly agree, they've taken 4 of the last 5 matches!!!
The one they did get will probably be their last.
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