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Old January 3rd, 2006, 01:01 AM
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Since Michelle Wie is a hot topic lately, and the other thread was becoming too long and heated, it was decided to keep it permanently closed and throw in a new thread devoted entirely to Ms. Wie's accomplishments and prospects for the future. Feel free to keep track of her rounds, events, etc. here but remember, keep it family friendly.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 01:06 AM
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The World Golf Rankings plans to start a ranking for women soon. Where do you think Wie will be ranked in the first rankings?
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 01:18 AM
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I think by the end of the coming year she'll slot in somewhere in the top 5, probably third or fourth. Annika for sure and likely Creamer will be ahead of her...Kerr will probably be there too, and maybe a resurgence from a Grace Park or Karrie Webb might lead them into the top 5 as well.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 01:26 AM
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You may be right about the year end rankings but where will Wie be in the initial rankings?
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 12:30 PM
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For the initial rankings I would bet about 5.

For end of year I reckon
1. Annika Sorrenstam
2. Paula Creamer
3. Christie Kerr
4. someone unexpected.
5. Wie

Were Wie to play a full season, I would have put her in at number 2 or 3 depending on Creamers progress.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 02:40 PM
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Since Michelle Wie is a hot topic lately, and the other thread was becoming too long and heated...
Don't like to hear that was happening as I crawl out from underneath my rock unaware of the happenings...folks, let's keep these things in check and keep out baord the way it's always been...with constructive comments and anger held in check.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 05:46 PM
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I think by the end of the coming year she'll slot in somewhere in the top 5, probably third or fourth. Annika for sure and likely Creamer will be ahead of her...Kerr will probably be there too, and maybe a resurgence from a Grace Park or Karrie Webb might lead them into the top 5 as well.
Card, I haven't paid any attention to the upcoming WGR for the ladies but I wonder, won't there probably be a minimun number of events played on the LPGA and WGR sanctioned events? With the limited number of exemptions available to Michelle as a non-member, will she even be ranked?
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 05:48 PM
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Card, I haven't paid any attention to the upcoming WGR for the ladies but I wonder, won't there probably be a minimun number of events played on the LPGA and WGR sanctioned events? With the limited number of exemptions available to Michelle as a non-member, will she even be ranked?
I guess we'll find that out when the rankings come out.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 06:38 PM
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The men have a minimum of 40 events over 2 years, so if it is anything like that, then she won't have a ranking.
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The men have a minimum of 40 events over 2 years, so if it is anything like that, then she won't have a ranking.
That's what I was thinking - initially they'll base it on some amount of past performance, and she just turned pro so she won't have enough history to be ranked yet. And unless she goes out and wins 50% of her tourneys, she won't score enough in the first year to make it above top 25-30. Just guessing, though, since I have no numbers or formula to go by.
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The men have a minimum of 40 events over 2 years, so if it is anything like that, then she won't have a ranking.
Players are ranked whether they play the minimum number of events or not...the divisor for the men's WGR is 40, though. For quite some time, Tiger was taking a zero in one or two of his ranking spots because he'd only played 38 or 39 events in the prior 104 weeks.
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Players are ranked whether they play the minimum number of events or not...the divisor for the men's WGR is 40, though. For quite some time, Tiger was taking a zero in one or two of his ranking spots because he'd only played 38 or 39 events in the prior 104 weeks.
Okay, I'm going to put Michelle's Wie's ranking down to about 25th.

By the way, when they are giving a starting ranking position, they could just work out what the players would have been ranked, had the system been in place the last couple of years, and give them that starting rank.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 02:52 PM
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more 24/7 Michelle Wie fodder

I was in the pro-Wie boat, too, believe it or not, right up until I saw the parade of excuses she came up with for missing the Japan tour cut. Instead of "I didn't hit the shots" it was about a camera going off, this, that, the other thing - everything except her hopping the bogey train home. That completely turned me off to this girl.

She clearly thinks she deserves it all instead of having to earn any of it. And God forbid it be her own fault when her game goes south when the pressure kicks in. Is it expected? From a girl her age? Sure. But suck it up and take it, don't blame it on everything else under the sun except how you played.
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I think you are probably lacking in knowledge on sports psychology.

If you listened to Colin Montgomerie, throughout this season, he only had one win, near the end, but all the way through the season it was Positive, Postive, Positive. He didn't once say that he did this or that wrong, from every tournament he played he was talking up his performance and how well he was hitting it.

If you listened to Tiger last year, after the numerous times he came off the course having hit the ball everywhere but the fairway, and he would start to talk about how beautifully he was hitting it.

Michelle Wie, as you would expect, has a team around her and part of her training is to keep her mind on the positives.
Monty was questioned about messing things up, and he put the blame firmly on anything else he could think of. That has helped in him getting from 83 to 8 in the world rankings, so it can't be a bad idea.
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mr3856a,
I think you are probably lacking in knowledge on sports psychology.

If you listened to Colin Montgomerie, throughout this season, he only had one win, near the end, but all the way through the season it was Positive, Postive, Positive. He didn't once say that he did this or that wrong, from every tournament he played he was talking up his performance and how well he was hitting it.

If you listened to Tiger last year, after the numerous times he came off the course having hit the ball everywhere but the fairway, and he would start to talk about how beautifully he was hitting it.

Michelle Wie, as you would expect, has a team around her and part of her training is to keep her mind on the positives.
Monty was questioned about messing things up, and he put the blame firmly on anything else he could think of. That has helped in him getting from 83 to 8 in the world rankings, so it can't be a bad idea.

It had nothing to do with sports psychology. I believe it's called being a whiner or a crybaby. She was blaming everything on earth - cameras, the crowd, etc. etc. etc. - everything BUT her play. I saw the interview live, right after the round, and I know exactly what I saw: a whiner making excuses. Period.
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