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Old January 6th, 2006, 05:00 PM
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We'll see how you feel about that when the roster comes out and you see some of the other "stiffs" that got an invite.
I am glad that I am getting some support on some issue.
I look forward to getting that list when it comes available.

Naming 5 no hopers should be real easy.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 05:50 PM
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I am glad that I am getting some support on some issue.
I look forward to getting that list when it comes available.

Naming 5 no hopers should be real easy.
We already know one
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Old January 6th, 2006, 09:26 PM
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Furyk has made comments about Wie at the Sony:

Michelle Wie's a great talent," said Furyk. "I can't think of a 16-year-old girl that could hit it like that.

"I'll go beyond that. I don't know too many 16-year-old men that can go out there and play in a Tour event, have that much composure and hit the ball that well."

"I like the fact that she's a professional now getting an exemption," added Furyk, winner of the 2001 Mercedes Championships at Kapalua.

"I have no problem with her being in the event in the past. I just like to see exemptions go to golf professionals.

"Not that I don't think there's deserving amateurs and not that I don't think she deserved it, because she did"

So he thinks she deserved her previous exemptions.

He told reporters: "Michelle Wie's a great talent... I would not be surprised at all if she made the cut next week. She's definitely one in a million, or one in a billion, as a player.

"She hits it good and she's come within a shot of making the cut at least a couple of times. That's pretty special."

I hope mr didn't like Furyk, because he will be following O'Hair off the Christmas Card list.

"I would not be surprised at all if she made the cut next week,"

Some people would be.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 11:26 PM
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What makes Furyk's opinion any better than anyone else's?

And oh yeah........like Furyk's ever been known to utter a syllable that wasn't toeing the company line or politically correct. I'm not disputing what he says isn't true but where were his comments about "professionals getting exemptions" when Wie was an amateur and playing with those exemptions that he feels are better off awarded to professionals?

Wie's clubs will tell the story next week and if the winds blow like they are at the Mercedes she's in deep trouble.
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Old January 7th, 2006, 05:15 AM
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Absolutely. Every other player in that field has a *chance* of winning. She does not.
Ridiculous. Over the past two years she's outscored most of the local qualifiers and others who got in on exemptions. Many of these are guys who've, like Wie, played in only a few PGA Tour events and have yet to demonstrate they can contend on the PGA Tour.

So, what evidence do you have that these guys have more of a chance of winning than Wie? Is it simply the fact they're *guys* not *gals*?
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Old January 7th, 2006, 11:00 AM
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What makes Furyk's opinion any better than anyone else's?
Nothing, just when O'Hair's comments annoyed some people, I thought it might be fun to through Furyks comments about.


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Wie's clubs will tell the story next week and if the winds blow like they are at the Mercedes she's in deep trouble.
Very true.
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Old January 7th, 2006, 04:04 PM
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Here is a link to the field for the Sony Open, which is subject to change, but probably won't change much if at all:

http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r006/field

As challenged, I will later post the list of 5 players that have just as little prospect of winning the Sony Open as Wie does.

I think leaguegolf could safely pick 20 from this list that have no chance.
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Old January 7th, 2006, 07:18 PM
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Here is a link to the field for the Sony Open, which is subject to change, but probably won't change much if at all:

http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r006/field

As challenged, I will later post the list of 5 players that have just as little prospect of winning the Sony Open as Wie does.

I think leaguegolf could safely pick 20 from this list that have no chance.
I don't know how many don't have a chance of winning, but there are around 20 guys on the list who I've never heard of and while I'm no expert, I follow the game fairly closely. There several PGA non-winners and many who probably never will win. I think it's a rather silly argument. I'd bet the house that there are a couple dozen guys in the field who will never win a PGA tournament. I think I'll start a thread...pick 10 guys you think will score worse than Michelle. Whomever picks the most right wins. This is a suggestion. If no one does it by next week I will.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 12:17 PM
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Absolutely. Every other player in that field has a *chance* of winning. She does not.
David Duval is there???
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Old January 8th, 2006, 02:28 PM
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I have two words for all the Michelle Wie fans about coming out before she has won at any level, Ty Tryon! Where is he now? At leasthe QUALIFIED for the tour!
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Old January 8th, 2006, 05:08 PM
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I have two words for all the Michelle Wie fans about coming out before she has won at any level, Ty Tryon! Where is he now? At leasthe QUALIFIED for the tour!
There are certainly failures at all levels of entrance to the professional ranks, but I think it's a bit absurd to compare Michelle to Ty. Michelle has at least shown the game to compete on the LPGA Tour, and Ty's single decent performance on the PGA Tour at the BC Open was probably enough to tint his eyesight just enough for him to jump into the biggest mistake he could possibly have made.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 06:07 PM
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I have two words for all the Michelle Wie fans about coming out before she has won at any level, Ty Tryon! Where is he now? At leasthe QUALIFIED for the tour!
Sorry this is not related to the Sony Open, so doesn't belong in this topic.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 06:08 PM
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I think I'll start a thread...pick 10 guys you think will score worse that Michelle. Whomever picks the most right wins. This is a suggestion. If no one does it by next week I will.
That sounds like an excellent idea, and I certainly intend entering a list.
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Old January 8th, 2006, 06:10 PM
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I'm not disputing what he says isn't true but where were his comments about "professionals getting exemptions" when Wie was an amateur and playing with those exemptions that he feels are better off awarded to professionals?
From January 12, 2005 (when Michelle was still an amateur):

http://www.asapsports.com/golf2/2005sony/011205JF.html

Q. Do you think the acceptance level of her playing a PGA TOUR event would be different if she added another one, say a B.C. Open or something like that in the fall? Would guys be talking about, she's-taking-my-spot-type thing.

JIM FURYK: Well, see, that, I have a problem with that argument in that it's a sponsor's spot. It's not really their spot. ESPN asked me a question yesterday, was I surprised that she was in the field again this year, and I said, hey, if anyone was going to have a surprise, it would have been last year. After the attention she had gained and the notoriety that she had gained and the attention the tournament gained probably not only nationwide but worldwide, it was a no-brainer. You just expected that she would be in the field again because it was such good publicity and such a good thing for this golf tournament. I would expect that she would be here. If she played somewhere else, I guess instead of answering for the rest of the field, I don't really have a problem with it.

When I was a mini-tour player, I maybe would have said, geez -- I like sponsor exemption's when I was a mini tour player I liked sponsor's exemptions to go to golf professionals because those guys were trying to make a living, but an exception where a guy has won the U.S. Amateur or an exception like Michelle Wie, I don't care who you put in this field as a sponsor's exemption, no one will gain one third the attention that she's going to gain with her sponsor's exemption. So it's just a no-brainer that she's in the field. Will it bother some players if she got an exemption somewhere else? I'm sure it would. I'm not one of those people.

It seems to me Furyk is saying the same thing now as when Michelle was still an amateur. As a rule he'd like to see sponsor exemptions going to professionals with exceptions reserved for the U.S. Amateur champion and those who can bring in the fans and the $$ (Michelle).
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Old January 10th, 2006, 09:24 PM
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I Bet the First Alternate is Really Upset

that a 16 year old girl who can't win on the LPGA is taking his spot. I believe it is now Matt Hansen.
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