If you say so.......They probably thought the Western open would be a major in peoples minds forever as well...but it isnt now.....Bobby Jones thought the Amateurs would be majors but now their is much much debate whether they are or not. Theres no one particlaur rule on US amateurs...Things change and times change so its a good possibility it could and will happen. Your just assuming everything is set in stone when in fact many things in golf have changed just like i pointed out earlier.....i wouldnt even be bringing this up if the media and players havent already used that term 5th major....Someones bringing it up and someones saying it besides me or we couldnt even have this conversation...............Your absolutely kidding yourself if you dont think things in golf can change in terms of majors....Like i said the Western was considered a major and now where is it???? The Am was also considered that and now where is it??? its up for debate just like this 5th major.....Dont be so so sure of yourself on that one because golf had been known to change things like i have mentioned.
i wouldnt even be bringing this up if the media and players havent already used that term 5th major....
The media can say what they want, and the PGA Tour would love for it to become the 5th major, but if you ever hear a player saying the Players SHOULD become the 5th major, you let me know... It will never, ever have Major status from the players, period.
Ill let you know and dont you forget how The Western was considered a major and so was the Am and now the Western isnt and the Am is very debatable and most would say is not. Your assessment that all majors will stay the same forever that things stay the same isnt true. All im saying is its a possibility and your closing that possibility off. Based on history that would not be wise.
Ill let you know and dont you forget how The Western was considered a major and so was the Am and now the Western isnt and the Am is very debatable and most would say is not. Your assessment that all majors will stay the same forever that things stay the same isnt true. All im saying is its a possibility and your closing that possibility off. Based on history that would not be wise.
When was the Western ever considered a Major? It's always been a big tournament but it was never a major.
And what do you think any player on Tour would rather have, a PGA Championship (the weakest of the 4 Majors) or, say, 3 or 4 Players Championships??
The thing that the Players will never have that the 4 Majors do is history...
Many players considered the Western a major back when Hagen won about 6 of them and some old golf writers even count them as majors in their eyes so their is justification for the western in being a major. Hey its pointless to argue this or that and i respect your opinion tremendously. Im hoping the Players doesnt become recognized as a 5th major in the near future. It is a possibility however i wont rule that out.
Many players considered the Western a major back when Hagen won about 6 of them and some old golf writers even count them as majors in their eyes so their is justification for the western in being a major. Hey its pointless to argue this or that and i respect your opinion tremendously. Im hoping the Players doesnt become recognized as a 5th major in the near future. It is a possibility however i wont rule that out.
I hope not, too! I think the Tour will always push for it, but the players will never recognize it as such. I hope you didn't take my comments as being negative - you have a well-thought out argument, and with the right goal!
Naturally, the PGA Tour would LOVE to make the Players the 5th major, because they don't control any majors (or the other biggie, the Ryder Cup) otherwise. It'd be a huge bargaining piece in TV negoatiations.
While I don't mind your idea, I doubt the "exclusives" will ever become a reality. And as mr3856a said, the players will never become a 5th major. It doesn't matter what the media says.
One thing i'm not sure about is your choice of tournaments. Why choose these ones over, say, the Bell Canadian Open? I know, everyone says it has become a "tier 2" tournament. The point is, it is still a NATIONAL OPEN, and should be treated as such.
To be honest The Bell Canadien Open was in my mind when giving the 5 "Exclusives" and can easily be changed with the WGC or just added as an exclusive..........A fun fact about the canadien open......Lee Trevino in 1971 won it and he also won the US open and British open that same year..Tiger did this in 2000(us,british,candien) and they are the only men in history to ever have done this.......What i found interesting is they have a trophy for this feat which is one of the coolest trophies ive ever seen for their Triple Crown......Yet again another reason for tigeroverjack
I don't get it? Lets just say they made the TPC a major. Would anything change. All that would happen is that player John Doe would win it in 2009 lets say. 10 years later when discussing his career folks would say, but he won a major, then most would reply, Oh but it was just the TPC.
A fifth major would mess up the record book too.
I would agree that there are 3 "Classes" of tournaments. The 4 majors, then the "Important Ones" Memorial, TPC, Bayhill, Firestone, Tour Championship (maybe) and in Scotland Loch Lohman (Maybe).
I don't watch much golf on TV. The majors, (Maybe not the PGA unless it's a good course) and the ones I called Important ones above.
The rest just don't interest me. Rather watch paint dry than watch some of these events.
I Think Beaman and then Fincham have it "Just Right"!!!!
January 31st, 2006, 12:13 PM
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