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Old February 11th, 2006, 02:58 PM
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Looking at the difference between the pro’s score and the team score suggests the extent to which the amateur is contributing. For example, the Weir-Roberts team finished Rd 2 at –18, but Weir was –14 all by himself, so Roberts helped by only a few shots. Similarly, Cook-Trump were at –10, but Cook was –7 by himself, leaving The Donald only a few chances to help. Oberholser and McCallister seem to be ham-and-egging pretty well.

In the rest of the above cases, it seems to be the amateur who’s helping the team, in some cases, by a lot. Among the leaders, Mike Donnelly, Alan Heuer, and Ronald Turner have to be feeling good about how things are going for them: The Kraft-Donnelly team finished Rd 2 at –19, with Kraft at –5 on his own ball, meaning Donnelly pitched in about a dozen shots in 2 rounds (i.e., about 6 birdies or net birdies per 18 holes). Ditto for Heuer and Turner. Meanwhile, among the more recognizable celebrities, Bill Murray, George Lopez, and Rush Limbaugh seem to be carrying their pro partners by about a dozen shots or more.

Of course, one would have to look at the pro’s scorecards to further investigate these appearances. If a pro had lots of birdies but also lots of bogeys, his contribution would be greater than it appears if his amateur partner managed par or net par on holes where the pro was struggling.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 06:05 PM
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Just an aside, George Lopez is a jack***.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 06:10 PM
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I keep hearing about Dennis Quaid having a 2 handicap, and being the best Hollywood golfer. However, every shot they have shown him hit has been a disaster, including some grounders, and his swing is very hitchy and dysfunctional. Is that 2 handicap really a 22??? Maybe a 15, zero chance it is better.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 12:04 AM
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Just an aside, George Lopez is a jack***.
But he's not wearing a referee shirt. (sorry, inside joke)

If there was a fundraiser to keep Lopez and his degrading ethnic humor off the course and out of my living room I would certainly donate. As it is, I simply hit the mute button when I see his face.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 02:22 AM
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I'm not here to call anyone's opinion, but I've been to one of George Lopez's stand up shows. Yes, it is pretty much all ethnically based, but...it's something I relate to. I guess it's easier to laugh at if you can say, "That's exactly how my mom/uncle/etc... is." I guess it is limiting in that way, but his show is the only one to stay on the air from the group of new shows that debuted that year.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 11:11 AM
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I guess it is limiting in that way, but his show is the only one to stay on the air from the group of new shows that debuted that year.
I think that says more about the sad state of comedy on TV than it does about humor.:shrug Lopez maybe a fine human being but I'd prefer he limit his one act pony to his sit-com. To each their own.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 11:24 AM
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Bill Murry is obviously not a 15 HCP. If he were to play in my foresome for money he'ed be cut to a 10. He must play with a bunch of dumbells.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 11:41 AM
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I can't stand watching this tournament. CBS needs to realize that most golfers watch golf to see the unbelievable shots the pros hit that we wish we were capable of hitting. We don't tune in to see Justin Timberlake shank a wedge shot. I can see those shots every day at the local club.

I'd be interested to see what the ratings are for this event compared to other "big name" events.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 12:00 PM
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I enjoy Bill Murray, but watching the rest of the amatuers hack it around gets old very fast after the curiousity factor wears off.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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Bill Murry is obviously not a 15 HCP. If he were to play in my foresome for money he'ed be cut to a 10. He must play with a bunch of dumbells.
I was wondering about Bill Murray's handicap, too. According to this
http://www.golfdigest.com/features/i...odranking.html
(Golf Digest webpage dated Dec 2005), he's a 7.5, but according to the webpage given in this thread's first post, he's a 14 for this tournament. I don't get it.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 01:22 PM
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Given below are the top 5 team scores after 3 rounds. In parentheses after the pro’s name is number of birdies and eagles he made in the 54 holes. This will help give an idea of how many birdies or pars/net birdies the amateur partner contributed to help get the team to its number.

–29 Arron Oberholser (22 birdies, 0 eagles) + Michael McCallister (8 hdcp)
–28 Brian Davis (14 birdies, 2 eagles) + Ronald Turner (10 hdcp)
–27 Hunter Mahan (16 birdies, 1 eagle) + Alan Heuer (9 hdcp)
–25 Tim Clark (16 birdies, 0 eagles) + Michael Bolton (11 hdcp)
–24 Greg Kraft (13 birdies, 0 eagles) + Mike Donnelly (4 hdcp)

Amateurs can also contribute by making pars or bogeys/net pars (or, better: birdies or pars/net birdies) on holes where the pro made bogey or worse.

Missing the cut were Bill Murray, Rush Limbaugh, Huey Lewis, Chris O’Donnell, Glenn Frey, Craig T. Nelson, Samuel L. Jackson, Mark Wahlberg, and Tom Dreesen. The list given here (http://www.pgatour.com/story/9226336) doesn’t seem complete, so I can’t tell what happened to some others, such as Ray Romano, George Lopez, and Dennis Quad.
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Old February 14th, 2006, 12:21 PM
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I'm sure its a GHIN index adjusted to the course they areplaying with the slope. My GHIN index is a 10.5 but if i play at another course here its an adjusted 12
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Old February 14th, 2006, 12:56 PM
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I remember reading a very detailed article about Dennis Quaid, and how he eats, sleeps, and breathes golf. After watching the pro-am, I find it hard to believe that he is a legit 2 handicap. His swing looks like he hasn't got an once of athletisism in his body.
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Old February 14th, 2006, 01:00 PM
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I remember reading a very detailed article about Dennis Quaid, and how he eats, sleeps, and breathes golf. After watching the pro-am, I find it hard to believe that he is a legit 2 handicap. His swing looks like he hasn't got an once of athletisism in his body.
Quaid may not have the most athletic golf swing, but I think his roles in numerous sports movies say otherwise about his athleticism.

BTW..You don't have to have a picturesque swing to have a low handicap.
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Old February 14th, 2006, 01:08 PM
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BTW..You don't have to have a picturesque swing to have a low handicap.
Your swing is actually very picturesque leaguegolf... maybe Picasso-esqe or possibly Jackson Pollack. Luckily, there are no style points in golf.
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