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Old April 11th, 2006, 09:35 PM
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Never heard it used to describe a disabled person....you think they would realize he is AMERICAN and thus there will be some nuances in how English is spoken in our 2 countries.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 10:09 PM
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Do a Google search for his name and there's a ton of news on it now. People are over-reacting to say the least.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 11:39 PM
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Yea like filey golfer said its a cultural thing , because in the U.S. we have 1000 more words that we use that is more degrading, and nasty than spaz.The Brits I guess use this word more commonly , and have adopted it in there vocabulary probably as equivalant to retard. Im sure it didnt come across the U.S. press as deragatory so maybe the BRitish press should shove a scone in it!
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Old April 12th, 2006, 03:20 AM
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Four pages on this? Silly. I won't read them. Instead I'm going to shag some flies.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 03:28 AM
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I cam e back tot his ,only to find four pages!

The gutter press who published this garbage about Tiger are the same as those who published the distorted report about Paul CAsey hating Americans. They took an article from a proper newspaper and cherry picked some comments and twisted them into a false story.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 03:34 AM
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Is Tiger taking lessons from Natalie Gulbis???



I's his Arnold Palmer impression according to Peter Alliss...
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Old April 12th, 2006, 03:38 AM
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Never heard it used to describe a disabled person....you think they would realize he is AMERICAN and thus there will be some nuances in how English is spoken in our 2 countries.
Yeah for instance a Fag in the uk is a ciggarette & in the USA its something very odd indeed.

I still remember a story my dad told me years ago about a workmate of his asking an american tourist on an airliner if he could have a fag, (this is well before the no smoking on planes thing) You can imagine the confused & slightly worried reaction of the American tourist.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 11:43 AM
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Never heard it used to describe a disabled person....you think they would realize he is AMERICAN and thus there will be some nuances in how English is spoken in our 2 countries.
I've spoken to people down here in SoCal who know what "spaz" means, and I also saw someone in this thread note that they hadn't heard the phrase used in the "retard" context in years - I'm assuming that was also over here. So, unless by AMERICAN, you simply mean IGNORANT, that's a lame excuse. The word IS known to refer to "spastic" in the US, it's just that the language over here is now such a wash of sloppy slang, people are using words they have no idea the meaning of.

All that the above illustrates is that some people are equally ill-informed as is Tiger. I still think that he meant the comment to be a harmless, off the cuff remark, but he ought to have known better.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 12:01 PM
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I still think that he meant the comment to be a harmless, off the cuff remark, but he ought to have known better.
Th PC brigade over here are a real pain in the **** there are pieces in the papers everyday showing how over the top these people are, it's the same with Health and Safety today there was report of how a couple with three kids weren't allowed in a swimming pool because each child needs supervision the worst of it was the bloke was a swimming instructor

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Old April 12th, 2006, 01:05 PM
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While I agree that some take it too far, "PC" is a rather ambiguous term that many often use to deflect valid criticism of their language and behavior. Just because we have the right to refer to anyone however we please, doesn't make it right, IMO. To each his own, but I'm going to stick to calling people what they want to be called. Why would anyone do otherwise unless it's your intent to offend ?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 04:10 PM
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To each his own, but I'm going to stick to calling people what they want to be called. Why would anyone do otherwise unless it's your intent to offend ?
Because, as I said, some people have such ridiculous demands in their quest to avoid being offended that it is absurd to try to appease them.

Think of it this way: I avoid getting into fights, but if someone is so determined to get in a fight, I am going to defend myself. By the same token, I am only going to go to certain lengths to not offend. I don't use racial slurs, sexist terms, or the word "retard," but I am not going to start writing "wmyn" or calling short people "vertically challenged," etc.

There are reasonable precautions to take, and there are extremes. I will take the reasonable precautions. The extremists can drive themselves spastic over my words, for all I care.


Edit, two hours later: to fix my Engrish.

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Old April 12th, 2006, 04:42 PM
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Because, as I said, some people much such ridiculous demands in their quest to avoid being offended that it is absurd to try to appease them.

Think of it this way: I avoid getting into fights, but if someone is so determined to get in a fight, I am going to defend myself. By the same token, I am only going to go to certain lengths to not offend. I don't use racial slurs, sexist terms, or the word "retard," but I am not going to start writing "wmyn" or calling short people "vertically challenged," etc.

There are reasonable precautions to take, and there are extremes. I will take the reasonable precautions. The extremists can drive themselves spastic over my words, for all I care.
LOL at that last sentence! I like your satirical "vertically challenged" phrase --- it sounds very Carlinesque. LOL. Well said, Chris, well said!
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Old April 12th, 2006, 04:50 PM
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but I am not going to start writing "wmyn" or calling short people "vertically challenged," etc.
The next time you're subject to a tirade from one of the terminology Nazis, tell them that you think they're "anally oriented" and see if that appeases them.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 05:36 PM
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To each his own, but I'm going to stick to calling people what they want to be called. Why would anyone do otherwise unless it's your intent to offend ?
I want to be called "Lord and Master of the Known and Unknown Universes and the Holy Arbiter of All That Is in Dispute, He on Whom the Sun Smiles, Whom the Rain Caresses and the Wind Cools, the Prince of Golf and the Bane of All Who Scream 'Get in the Hole.'" Is that OK, wazmankg?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 05:48 PM
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