Yes, John has been destructive to himself primarily, but I'm wondering what he's lacking. There's something that drives him to do what he does. Maybe all of the failed marriages and the problems with the current one doesn't help. But I believe what people like about John is his heart. People know deep down, the man has a giving and forgiving heart. Maybe he just needs to forgive himself. Anyway, I'm not gonna give up on him.
btw, I would be interested in Phil Mickelson's won/loss ratio in gambling. Not that it's any of my business.
As a JD fan , it's almost painful to watch his show. He still seems like a good-hearted guy, but his addictions and shortcomings are not fun to watch up close and personal. I suspect it's not going to end well for big John and it'll probably be sooner than later.
I would like Daly to do well. However for those defending him right now, here's what I would like to say...
1. How many of us would like to live his life? I would not. I might trade my life for Tiger or Phil's, but not John Daly's
2. The gambling and excessive drinking plus the bad marriages to me means he needs some serious counselling. However, he has to realize that himself, and until he gets counselling for this, I think his self-destrucive life continues. He may lose his playing privileges by the time he's 45 and I would not be surprised to see him dead by the time he's 60 barring any major changes in his life.
about the gambling... michael jordan said he got out of and into basketball so many times because of the same problem. also "rumors" tiger suffers from the problem as well. and barkly too for that matter.
That's just plain silly but they're your kids. Maybe details about his life off the course written in his new book will open some eyes about "good ol' boy" John Daly. I don't dislike John but I sure wouldn't want him for a father. He's repeatedly shown all the signs of addictive behavior (women, alcohol, smoking, gambling etc.). While he may be a great player (at times) and fun to party with, I'd prefer my child see him for what he is the same way my son sees the "roided up" baseball players for what they are.
We all have our own vices and personal problems but the lives of very, very few that have Daly's addictive behavior of boozing and gambling end up well.
Roids are illegal, beer, tobacco (at least not yet) and gambling isn't. Huge difference in my book between sombody who has to cheat to be competitive than sombody with a psycological disorder.
John has a compulsive personality. He will always be addicted to something. He, I think, realizes that but has tried to take "the lesser of two evils" approach. I think he will get control of this problem, and has a plan to do it, using a moderation method like he did with drinking.
He realized that Jack Daniels was a huge weakness for him, and made him stupid. He drinks only beer these days, and seems to have a grip, somewhat, on that.
He needs to back off of the big stakes gambling, and prove that he can stop at a smaller level. Play with cash, never with credit. Casinos give you chips for a reason. It gives you a feeling like it isn't money you are losing.
I think he will beat the gambling thing, but what will the next addiction be???
I wasn't referring to cheating to be competitive and I'm certainly not condoning steroid use but looking up to Daly and his compulsive addictive behavior (legal or not) isn't anything I want my son to do. Physcological disorder? That's just a politically correct term for .
No, thats a professional term for I'm about the most un pc person yoru ever going to meet. I don't condone him either, but i still think he is 1,894,754x better than a cheating football/baseball what ever sport **** that out their being held up on eh pulpit by the worthless media.
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No, thats a professional term for I'm about the most un pc person yoru ever going to meet. I don't condone him either, but i still think he is 1,894,754x better than a cheating football/baseball what ever sport **** that out their being held up on eh pulpit by the worthless media.
That's part of my take on the guy - at least he's honest. Half the other athletes, actors, media types and 99.99999999% of politicians are all full of *#&$. At least John won't look you in the eye and lie to you.
According to Golf Digest, Daly ranked 11th last year in income, with $2,227,370 in purses and another $7,000,000 in "other income". That's over $9 mill, but lets say he's earned an average of $5 mill per year for the last twelve years, he's still well ahead of his losses. His body won't allow him to keep playing indefinitely so he better get things under control before long.
John Daly has an addictive personality. It is probably partly genetic. There are reams of studies on this sort of thing on the web and elsewhere, if you'd care to look them up. Some folks are more suseptable to compulsive behavior than others, whether it be drinking, smoking, gambling, drugs.... whatever. True willpower is the only way to overcome these demons, but it is physiologically harder for some than others. Gambling holds absolutely no interest for me. I dropped a pack a day habit cold turkey and never looked back....no problem. On the other hand, I like my beer. I would have a difficult time setting it down for good. I just have to carefully monitor my consumption. My wife, on the other hand has a lousy 5-7 cigarette per day habit that she can't kick for the life of her. She's tried everything. It's a different challenge for everyone and there is a physiological component, I'm convinced. There are 2 aspect to the John Daly story in my view. Daly the golfer, personality, all-around great/fun guy. Then there is the John Daly family-man/role model view. Big John is one of my favorite golfers and contrary to some of the above posts, I think he will continue to be hugely popular for years (Champions Tour) if his health hold up... a BIG if. I wish he'd not chosen to take on the warts-and-all TV show. I feel sorry for his kids. I'm sure he loves them dearly, but to emulate/inherit JD's habits without his talent and charisma is a recipe for disaster.
Some set their sights for heros a bit higher than others.
Just because you swing a golf club, dunk a basketball, throw a football or hit a baseball doesn't make you a hero. It just makes you an athlete. It's society that has decided to thrust the "Hero" label on athletes. They are talented individuals no doubt, but at the end of the day they are just human beings with their own strengths and weaknesses just like the rest of us.
i like Daly, always have. he's just living his life like a normal person, why would he wanna lie or change because he's a professional golfer? he could change for personal reasons, but let it be personal for him, he's lived a good life. 20 years ago most people would have a different view, smoking, drinking and gambling is looked upon as very bad nowdays ( not so much gambling and drinking but smoking is ). i personally smoke 30-40 a day, some days treat myself to a cigar. dont drink as much as i used too which isnt a bad thing. gamble on the horses, football, golf, boxing, poker etc....
what im trying to say is, judge professional golfers by there skills in there profession and not what happens in there day to day life, thats personally what i try to do. i always thought daly had one of the biggest fan bases in the sport, seems i may be wrong. he can do what other people can only dream of when he's hitting the ball well, dont take that away from him because of his personal life outside golf.
Just because you swing a golf club, dunk a basketball, throw a football or hit a baseball doesn't make you a hero. It just makes you an athlete. It's society that has decided to thrust the "Hero" label on athletes. They are talented individuals no doubt, but at the end of the day they are just human beings with their own strengths and weaknesses just like the rest of us.
exactly right, when im watching golf, i just try to judge people by what they do with that club. and at the end of the day, there private life is private, if he wants to have a drink and a fag then so be it.
May 3rd, 2006, 10:10 AM
Maybe details about his life off the course written in his new book will open some eyes about "good ol' boy" John Daly. I don't dislike John but I sure wouldn't want him for a father. He's repeatedly shown all the signs of addictive behavior (women, alcohol, smoking, gambling etc.). While he may be a great player (at times) and fun to party with, I'd prefer my child see him for what he is the same way my son sees the "roided up" baseball players for what they are. 
I'm about the most un pc person yoru ever going to meet. I don't condone him either, but i still think he is 1,894,754x better than a cheating football/baseball what ever sport **** that out their being held up on eh pulpit by the worthless media.
Physcological disorder? That's just a politically correct term for 
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