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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:30 PM
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OK, I think we've got it fixed now...let's keep it clean and not so personal, fellas.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 03:17 PM
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One thing that is really interesting, is that alot of the people complaining about Wie, say that she needs to win on the lpga before she should be playing on the pga.

Personally, I would have judged her ability to play on the pga, by her performances there.
However, for those people who want her to win lpga titles, I hope that when she starts winning lpga titles, that you will remain consistant to what you have been saying, and call for her to get lots of pga exemptions.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 03:47 PM
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However, for those people who want her to win lpga titles, I hope that when she starts winning lpga titles, that you will remain consistant to what you have been saying, and call for her to get lots of pga exemptions.
Nobody is calling for her to get "lots of pga exemptions" if she wins on the LPGA Tour.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 05:51 PM
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I know it sounds like a broken record but Michelle Wie IS ONLY 16 years old.

If she doesn't win until after the next 2 LPGA seasons she will still be the youngest LPGA winner in history.

There's no rule that she has to win on the LPGA to play against guys, and its not like she's totally embarassed herself playing on the PGA she's been finishing around the middle of the pack. This is not Laura Davies who finished next to last at a men's tournament -(the guy she beat had an injury too).

There's a lot of insecure people in this world and I guess she just riles them up.
People bashing her left and right really need to find something else to complain about -give the kid some credit for having the guts to follow her dream. More people should try living their life to its fullest like she does.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 12:56 AM
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I know it sounds like a broken record but Michelle Wie IS ONLY 16 years old.

If she doesn't win until after the next 2 LPGA seasons she will still be the youngest LPGA winner in history.

There's no rule that she has to win on the LPGA to play against guys, and its not like she's totally embarassed herself playing on the PGA she's been finishing around the middle of the pack. This is not Laura Davies who finished next to last at a men's tournament -(the guy she beat had an injury too).

There's a lot of insecure people in this world and I guess she just riles them up.
People bashing her left and right really need to find something else to complain about -give the kid some credit for having the guts to follow her dream. More people should try living their life to its fullest like she does.
Bravo, couldn't have said better myself. Win or no Win, I think she's already a winner by following her heart instead of being afraid of what others might think.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 02:14 AM
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Personally, I would have judged her ability to play on the pga, by her performances there.
as a fellow Wie fan i don't think you should be using that argument (thus far anyway). missing the cut isn't all that impressive, regardless if it was just by a stroke or two. she has not proven that she deserves exemptions so let's just admit that she's been given a few favors. however, there is nothing wrong with these exemptions because this is what the majority of people want and she's playing on the PGA in ADDITION to what she's ALLOWED to play on the LPGA Tour.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 02:16 AM
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O.K. For the last time. MICHELLE IS ALREADY PLAYING IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EVENTS ALLOWED BY THE LPGA !!

So to Boomer & Lefty , who should know better... please write on the blackboard 100 times.

MICHELLE IS ALREADY PLAYING IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EVENTS ALLOWED BY THE LPGA !!
MICHELLE IS ALREADY PLAYING IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EVENTS ALLOWED BY THE LPGA !!

What would you guys have her do pass up opportunities to play against superior competition in between those times the LPGA allows her to play ?
every MW post should end with MICHELLE IS ALREADY PLAYING IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EVENTS ALLOWED BY THE LPGA !! maybe that way we won't be hearing the same arguments over and over and over...
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Old May 19th, 2006, 02:27 AM
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I think the world is in two camps, those who believe the marketing hype and think she is the second coming (after Tiger) ,and those who see an impressive talent cashing in on marketing hype instead of focusing on ending Annika's domination of the world golf.
for some of us all that you mentioned is immaterial. the way i see it, the world is in two camps, those who challenge the status quo in the hope that something great will come of it, and those who want to preserve the status quo because they're threatened by change. many great achievements have come at the cost of rejecting authority and being labeled a heretic.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 02:39 AM
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learn to win...to the point where you are winning consistantly WHERE YOU BELONG, THEN and ONLY THEN try to play somewhere else.
i'm sure plenty of people shared your sentiment in regard to Jackie Robinson. he played one year in the Negro League and was brought to the Majors in the midst of much controversy and turmoil and he sure didn't "win consistently". if he played where people thought he "belonged" he would not have changed the face of professional sports. regardless of what you want or wish, i don't think you or anyone else will be putting her in her rightful place. only MW will determine where she belongs, and as of now the sky's the limit.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 01:40 PM
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fthe way i see it, the world is in two camps, those who challenge the status quo in the hope that something great will come of it, and those who want to preserve the status quo because they're threatened by change.
I think you can break the world down into two camps as well: those who break the world down into two camps and those that don't.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 04:13 PM
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I think you can break the world down into two camps as well: those who break the world down into two camps and those that don't.
Hey, that's my line. I actually don't know who originally said it, but I've always liked it.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 06:32 PM
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Where one "belongs" in the sports world is determined by one's talent level, not race. In Robinson's day, that was a completely different issue. Robinson "belonged" in the major leagues and his performance proved that. Wie has yet to prove she "belongs."
how did Jackie Robinson prove that he "belonged" in the majors after playing only one year in the negro league? the fact is the brookyln dodgers organization went on a hunch and picked him up. sure he was hitting around .340 in the negro league but many people argued that "it was just the negro league" just like people are saying that a 16-year-old female making the cut is inconsequential because "it's just the Asian tour". sometimes you have to bend a few of the rules so that greatness can spread its wings.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 07:27 PM
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Personally, I would have judged her ability to play on the pga, by her performances there.
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as a fellow Wie fan i don't think you should be using that argument (thus far anyway). missing the cut isn't all that impressive, regardless if it was just by a stroke or two. she has not proven that she deserves exemptions so let's just admit that she's been given a few favors.
I was simply stating how ironic it was that people in the anti-Wie camp were constantly calling on her to win lpga titles and then be brought onto the pga tour.
In my opinion, lots of women wins lots of lpga titles. That doesn't mean they should be on the pga tour.
Michelle has shown more in her first 4 pga appearances than Tiger Woods did in his first 4 attempts, and he was older and had lots of experience winning, during his first 4 attempts.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 07:28 PM
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sometimes you have to bend a few of the rules so that greatness can spread its wings.
bravo.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 08:01 PM
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