Yes as stated earlier its simply a case of different. Fine, men are stronger, meaning the wrists are less likely to cock during a putt meaning that strength can be used to keep the wrists & hands quiet, combined with good tempo. The ladies on the other hand have to rely upon the tempo & speed of their putt stroke alone.
However the mens strength in the wrists can also take over at inopportune moments in some players to put paid to the double advantage. But of course that becomes simply a case of technique faults & maybe also nerves for some people. Though those are manifest in separate problems.
The Missus had a very poor putting stroke until a good 5 inches was taken off her putter recently, this has now allowed her to relax more & yet promote a considerable more stable putting stroke. With very minimal coaching she has learned to use the weight of the putter in conjunction with an appropriate tempo to make a lot more putts than previously.
Fair enough, statistically the ladies are not as good as men using a putter, however I don't think this need necessarily be the case at all.
As regards ms Wie, I think she is more than capable of becoming a much better putter than one tournament match might provide. I'd simply allow most of her problem as nerves. She'll spend a lot more time honing style & tempo in her short game which I think is better than most anyway, certainly as regards to wedge work, once the shortstick follows this, then a lot of people will no doubt be smirking on the other sides of their faces.
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As regards ms Wie, I think she is more than capable of becoming a much better putter than one tournament match might provide. I'd simply allow most of her problem as nerves. She'll spend a lot more time honing style & tempo in her short game which I think is better than most anyway, certainly as regards to wedge work, once the shortstick follows this, then a lot of people will no doubt be smirking on the other sides of their faces.
Listening to the wrap up last night on the Golf Channel, I heard an interview with Tom Pernice in which they asked him about Michelle and he commented that he thinks her putting problems come from too much flex in her knees. He said she bends her knees so much that it affects her stability on the putting stroke. Any opinions on that? Once he pointed it out, I watched replays later in the show and she does seem to be more bent at the knee than most.
This weekend, I'm going to be looking at people legs during putts!!!
Listening to the wrap up last night on the Golf Channel, I heard an interview with Tom Pernice in which they asked him about Michelle and he commented that he thinks her putting problems come from too much flex in her knees. He said she bends her knees so much that it affects her stability on the putting stroke. Any opinions on that? Once he pointed it out, I watched replays later in the show and she does seem to be more bent at the knee than most.
This weekend, I'm going to be looking at people legs during putts!!!
Tom is right. As good as her posture is while striking a golf shot, it is that bad while she is putting. She just looks a little unstable while putting, which allows body movement.
There are many putting postures, both straight legged & bent, that's even before anyone gets to the movement in the arms. Personally I don't think there is any one right & one wrong, again, simply different.
Yes she does have a very crouched stance as regards the legs & may well benefit from a solid straight-legged stance. Though I feel what she has currently is a product of the athletic nature of her playing.
Perhaps a more Padraig Harrington alike stance might improve her putting stats.
Perince was making excuses for her. She missed two putts I saw from three feet or less! Most of us could close our eyes and make those. I don't think her bended knees were the problem....unless they were shaking too much. She (a) had a bad day on the greens and (b) choked. Otherwise, I was very impressed with her...especially a few of her recoveries out of the rough.
I didn't see her even flinch during a putt, though she was certainly very tense at points. I certainly didn't see her move excessively during putts, though I will make a point of watching the coverage once more. Will say though that the stance did look a little awkward & may have interfered with the through motion due to the closeness of the hands to body. But just my personal opinion.
"Distance magnifies inaccuracy", so are you disagreeing or agreeing? As for your snippy little quote, I'm not arguing whether anyone's right or wrong, or "dividing the world..." -- just merely sharing my observations of what's out there every week on the golf course and TV. That's what these forums are for, so chill out.
"Distance magnifies inaccuracy", so are you disagreeing or agreeing? As for your snippy little quote, I'm not arguing whether anyone's right or wrong, or "dividing the world..." -- just merely sharing my observations of what's out there every week on the golf course and TV. That's what these forums are for, so chill out.
I see that you are a new member and may not be familiar with the avatars & signatures settings that members can chose. wazmankg's "quote" There are 2 kinds of people in the world... those who divide the world into 2 kinds of people and those who don't. was not directed at you personally and certainly not meant to upset you. It is his "signature", he's had it quite a while, and if you will notice it appears in all his posts. This is a friendly forum that thrives on lively discussions and we're glad to have you join in. Hope this helps.
Strength, shotmaking, and versatility of the short game have nothing to do with putting. If you took the top 20 putters from each tour and had a putting competition which group would win?
Are you sure? - better short game = shorter putts = fewer putts
[b]Listening to the wrap up last night on the Golf Channel, I heard an interview with Tom Pernice in which they asked him about Michelle and he commented that he thinks her putting problems come from too much flex in her knees. He said she bends her knees so much that it affects her stability on the putting stroke. Any opinions on that?
my opinion? although his assertion may be correct, Tom Pernice's only advice on putting should be how to set-up to the ball without making contact with it at address.
"Distance magnifies inaccuracy", so are you disagreeing or agreeing? As for your snippy little quote, I'm not arguing whether anyone's right or wrong, or "dividing the world..." -- just merely sharing my observations of what's out there every week on the golf course and TV. That's what these forums are for, so chill out.
Thanks Pings. As Pings posted, the quote below is an old one that I've always liked and certainly wasn't aimed at you. Actually, I was disagreeing with you...that's another thing these forums are for. "Distance magnifies inaccuracy" -> If my drive is 5% off center the farther I hit it the greater the chance there is that it will find the rough. That was my only point. I guess it depends upon how you define accuracy.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm a former inv. banker and guess I'm used to the onboxious stock forums. I like the fact that this is a friendly forum. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
June 6th, 2006, 09:23 PM
If you took the top 20 putters from each tour and had a putting competition which group would win? 
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