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Old June 11th, 2006, 10:22 PM
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All I know is that I never cared about womens golf until this weekend. Annika Michelle Wie, Se Ri Pak, Pat Hurst couldnt hold on, great tourney.Golf channel will replay at 8:30 CST tonight. Gonna make the wife watch!
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Old June 11th, 2006, 11:49 PM
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nice to see Se Ri playing well. -1 is a good start for her
really nice to see Se Ri win. add another trophy to that illustrious mantle.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 11:58 PM
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Congrats to Se Ri Pak!! It's great to see her back in the winner's circle again after such a poor run the last few years. Also nice to see Karrie Webb continue her solid play. I agree with wazman in that the women's game is as strong as at any time in recent memory. They're really heading in a positive direction.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 08:13 AM
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I went to the tournament yesterday. Bulle Rock is about 1 1/2 hours from my house and I had never been to a women's tournament before.

The weather was perfect, the course easy to get around and the crowd was manageable.

I followed Wie for about 9 holes, mostly on the back nine. Number 16, notwithstanding, I'd say her biggest strength was going to the green and her biggest weakness was not cashing in on birdie putts. She played so well from tee to green that her putting probably would not have held her back if she hadn't missed the green at 16 from about 100 yards. She had just gotten up and down from the thick rough near the green on the 15th for birdie but couldn't do the same thing for par on 16. Both flop shots were executed superbly though.

16 is such a short hole (330 yards down hill) that she probably could have come very close driving the green altogether..... I forget if the wind was helping or hurting though. She must have hit something like a 5 iron off of the tee. The green there is shaped like a skid mark with no room for error left or right but she had birdied it the previous three days. To me there is nothing more infuriating than being unable to at least par a hole from 100 yards or closer.

She also bogied the 2nd shortest par 4 yesterday (#1, 358 yards)

Overall, I think her game is such that she will contend in any LPGA tournament she enters.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 10:15 AM
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So, let's review:

Sand wedge from the fairway on 16, missed the green (with a SAND WEDGE?), missed a 4 footer and bogeyed, then missed an 8 footer for birdie on 17. Then you need a birdie to get into the playoff and leave yourself a 50 footer?

Another completely unimpressive closing stretch. And I'm shocked, just shocked to hear her complaining about the greens.

Looks like more of the usual. This is also more of the usual:

"It shows a lot that I played my 'B' game and I'm still in the top five," said Michelle.

It shows me nothing. It shows me she can't show up in the clutch, and apparently doesn't really care.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 10:41 AM
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Well she made plenty of good shots and putts, too. I certainly didn't get the impression that she didn't care. She seemed very frustrated to me and did well to get through the interview. On 18 her only mistake was the tee shot. She been going left all weekend when she tried to dial down and it happened again there. From that rough it was a bit of a guessing game and I can't fault her for coming up short/right, with the hazard just long & left. She gave the putt a good run...the 3-jack there was irrelevant. She was beaten by a couple of resurgent 30ish Hall of Famers. Right, another terrible outing. Please...it isn't going to be easy. BTW, how many times has Tiger come from behind on Sunday to win a major again ?
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Old June 12th, 2006, 11:10 AM
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BTW, how many times has Tiger come from behind on Sunday to win a major again ?
How many of anything has Michelle won?

I'm sure I'm not the only one to whom it's getting tiresome having the bridesmade be the center of attention all the time.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 11:15 AM
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So, let's review:

Sand wedge from the fairway on 16, missed the green (with a SAND WEDGE?), missed a 4 footer and bogeyed, then missed an 8 footer for birdie on 17. Then you need a birdie to get into the playoff and leave yourself a 50 footer?
I am pretty sure both of those putts were longer than you have alluded to. And of course you neglected to mention 3 birdies in 5 holes before that.

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Looks like more of the usual. This is also more of the usual:

"It shows a lot that I played my 'B' game and I'm still in the top five," said Michelle.

It shows me nothing. It shows me she can't show up in the clutch, and apparently doesn't really care.
Doesn't care?
Then why did she let out a clearly visible 4 letter word beginning with F, when she missed her putt on 16. The word wasn't food by the way.

She is simply being positive, and that is what she needs in order to be in the right frame of mind for the US Womens Open.

Every player in the field made mistakes. Many of them could claim that they would have won by 5 shots, if they just eliminated silly mistakes. Pat Hurst could have won by 10 strokes.
Even the 2 playoff players, made mistakes down the stretch.

By the way of the exciting young players:
Michelle Wie -6
Paula Creamer +4
Morgan Pressel +9

Morgan Pressel not only shot a 79, when in contention after round 2, but she backed that up with a 78.
It's not easy to back up a 79 with a 78.
Perhaps that should put Michelle Wie's performance into context.

How about Dorothy Delasin who led after 2 rounds and then shot 81, 78. She was -10 at one stage and finished +9
Or how about Nicole Castrale who led after round one with a 64, then shot 75, 74, 76.

Or how about Christie Kerr, who was 7 under on the last, and had a great chance to post a great score, and then shot in the water. Did anyone mention her?
She is a proven winner. But then again her name isn't Michelle Wie, is it.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 11:16 AM
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Wie played very well but 35 putts in the final round (I'll give her the meaningless par putt on #18 and call it 34 putts) doesn't get it done very often......even playing against the ladies.
35 putts? That won't get it done in your Tuesday night league half the time.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 11:57 AM
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35 putts? That won't get it done in your Tuesday night league half the time.
Even the greatest putters don't have low number of putts if they have a high number of greens in regulation, because the putts left from hitting a green are usually much longer, than those when someone misses a green and usually chips to within a couple of feet of the hole.

Her putting was fairly decent in round 4 if you watched the tournament. She could do with pitching it closer though.
Isn't it amazing that with a balky putter, some missed wedges from the centre of the fairway, and an errant 3 wood, a player can still be 2 shots from the lead? Maybe she did some things right as well.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 12:05 PM
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I am pretty sure both of those putts were longer than you have alluded to. And of course you neglected to mention 3 birdies in 5 holes before that.
I'm am pretty sure they weren't. That's what the press reports called them. And the 3 birdies in 5 holes before that? Yipee. I don't think they hand out trophies for that.

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By the way of the exciting young players:
Michelle Wie -6
Paula Creamer +4
Morgan Pressel +9

Morgan Pressel not only shot a 79, when in contention after round 2, but she backed that up with a 78.
It's not easy to back up a 79 with a 78.
Perhaps that should put Michelle Wie's performance into context.

How about Dorothy Delasin who led after 2 rounds and then shot 81, 78. She was -10 at one stage and finished +9
Or how about Nicole Castrale who led after round one with a 64, then shot 75, 74, 76.

Or how about Christie Kerr, who was 7 under on the last, and had a great chance to post a great score, and then shot in the water. Did anyone mention her?
She is a proven winner. But then again her name isn't Michelle Wie, is it.
Any more diversions?
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Old June 12th, 2006, 12:06 PM
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Isn't it amazing that with a balky putter, some missed wedges from the centre of the fairway, and an errant 3 wood, a player can still be 2 shots from the lead?
Not really.
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Is it possible to put someone on Ignore in this forum? I'd like to black out Mr38's comments. They're so off base that they're simply taking up unneeded space on my screen.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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Is it possible to put someone on Ignore in this forum? I'd like to black out Mr38's comments. They're so off base that they're simply taking up unneeded space on my screen.
You're perfectly free to ignore them. And when Michelle wins something, give me a call.

I just find it rediculous that Se Ri Pak WON the tournament and yet STILL everyone's talking about the girl who finished wherever.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 12:58 PM
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I must admit I cringed at Michelle's 'B' game comment, but I think that she just wanted the interview to end. Everyone is still talking "about the girl", because she is just that. To say you're getting tired of the bridesmaid "act" is beyond ridiculous when talking about a 16 YO who can't even play on a regular basis and works much of her golf around her high school schedule. Get used to it. Get over it. She is not going away. She will only get better. As long as she keeps playing as she has during the few chances she gets, there is no pressure. There will be no real pressure on her until she starts playing a full schedule, if she still has not won yet.... a highly unlikely scenario, IMO.
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