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Well Tom Lehman could be bothered to come over for this one.
What happened to all the other Americans
Have they forgotten the K club is only a few months away now ?

I have to say I'm gobsmacked that the Americans haven't come over for this one. I expected a big turn out by them, especially as they were invited to play the actual Ryder Cup course at the K club. But then I suppose they have plenty of practise rounds in the week before the cup starts.

maybe because they're out making a living? at this point in the season, the ryder cup is not a priority for them at this time.

I find that a bit hard to believe. The guys in the frame to make the team are wealthy enough to not worry about making money. I think they would have benefitted from playing in the Euro Open, especially as it's tough wind and rainy, links type golf. Could have been good for the guys who haven't played in the Ryder Cup before.

Generally I can never understand why the top 'secure' American golfers refuse to travel and play on the different international circuits of Europe, Japan, Asia and Australia. The golfers I refer to are the top 50 or so who are well inside all exemption categories and just continue to play 30 plus events on their home soil. Surely a two week playing break away from home would be good for the promotion of world golf , good for their own mind and there would be no financial disadvantage in doing so.

Perhaps they should, so that they don't disgrace your nation again.

As the teams stand, the Americans could be in for nearly as big a whippin as the last Ryder Cup. The usa has 5 players on the team, the other 5 are not experienced enough and generally not good enough. You should hope the lineup for the team changes dramatically before the competition starts.

The usa needs some players with experience so that they may put on a decent showing.

But with 'no-names' you need them to play as a team.... which is something the Euros do, but the US doesnt care for. Things like an attempt to get a few of the team to play the course under pressure conditions is what breeds team spirit...

I dont think the Euros under-estimate the US. We all accept we are under-dogs. But at the same time the US 'delegation' could do with a kick in the behind to try and sort them out. At the end of the day we realise that the US tune will change were you guys to win, so a few digs are deserved in case those double standards happen to apply later this year!

I think my fellow Europeans in Ireland will agree that when the weather turns in Ireland, it can be the same conditions in July as it might be in September. League, did you not see the conditions on Saturday and Sunday??

It may well be July, but it might as well have been Autumn!!

With Jet Lag as it is when flying US-UK, I would have thought the IDEAL plan would be to come over and play The European Open, Scottish Open and then The Open as Tom Lehman suggested.

Like Tom Lehman said. He has a difficult time calling someone like Tiger Woods an underdog.
In that respect the European team will always be the underdogs.

And we all believe that!!!!!!!!

The difference is that if it was the other way round, European players would have changed their schedule to fit in a tournament at the Ryder Cup venue befre playing a Major in USA. After many years of beating little ol' GB & I , the thought of being whipped again by Europe should have stimulated some pride and self repect amongst the USA players. With an overseas players winning the Western Open , it is not as if they had a good reason to stay at home!

I do not believe the Ryder Cup has a favourite, I put the teams as even , with history favouring the Americans. I will be amused to see the change in attitude to the Ryder Cup if the Americans win. After Kiawah Island , they threw their captain in the sea out of disinterest, and we do not need to go near Brookline and the apathy shown there.

Current US Ryder Cup standings

1 Tiger Woods 2930.00
2 Phil Mickelson 2474.38
3 Jim Furyk 1526.00
4 Chad Campbell 1129.60
5 David Toms 1072.25
6 J.J. Henry 778.75
7 Zach Johnson 756.48
8 Brett Wetterich 746.00
9 Vaughn Taylor 660.83
10 Lucas Glover 641.38

I'd have thought the bottom half of that list would be keen to play in Ireland, we would surely love to see them there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1 Tiger Woods, USA (1) 16.28 667.40 41 -301.67 213.88
2 Phil Mickelson, USA (2) 10.25 450.86 44 -191.82 276.43
3 Jim Furyk, USA (5) 7.02 371.90 53 -85.64 219.73
4 David Toms, USA (11) 4.86 243.01 50 -104.15 136.36
5 Chad Campbell, USA (16) 4.08 216.43 53 -76.22 146.29
6 Chris DiMarco, USA (21) 3.68 191.28 52 -111.28 68.75
7 Davis Love-III, USA (23) 3.57 175.08 49 -88.61 77.17
8 Fred Couples, USA (28) 3.38 138.50 41 -63.70 65.10
9 Scott Verplank, USA (33) 3.22 160.83 50 -73.69 80.84
10 Kenny Perry, USA (35) 3.20 140.70 44 -83.48 24.12
11 Zach Johnson, USA (36) 2.98 175.52 59 -70.99 118.21
12 Arron Oberholser, USA (37) 2.90 127.69 44 -43.04 107.72
13 Tim Herron, USA (39) 2.87 152.06 53 -53.06 80.54
14 Ben Crane, USA (41) 2.77 127.30 46 -48.22 41.05
15 Stewart Cink, USA (42) 2.71 146.51 54 -98.91 70.14
16 Bart Bryant, USA (45) 2.63 147.04 56 -61.99 32.54
17 Tom Lehman, USA (47) 2.56 112.50 44 -52.06 59.35
18 Lucas Glover, USA (49) 2.45 154.36 63 -42.72 86.34
19 Brandt Jobe, USA (50) 2.41 108.40 45 -33.43 40.96
20 Fred Funk, USA (52) 2.32 138.97 60 -67.16 61.35
21 Tom Pernice-Jr, USA (53) 2.28 146.01 64 -46.68 83.27
22 Brett Wetterich, USA (56) 2.23 131.52 59 -11.47 113.90
23 Justin Leonard, USA (57) 2.18 111.18 51 -64.31 35.02
24 Vaughn Taylor, USA (58) 2.13 132.36 62 -40.92 73.29
25 Sean O'Hair, USA (59) 2.12 103.73 49 -34.16 28.75
26 Billy Mayfair, USA (61) 2.08 132.82 64 -41.60 67.96
27 Charles Howell-III, USA (63) 1.95 115.00 59 -55.81 43.23
28 John Daly, USA (65) 1.93 98.19 51 -62.47 8.94
29 J.J. Henry, USA (68) 1.88 116.55 62 -26.35 92.35
30 Bo Van Pelt, USA (69) 1.86 117.37 63 -47.17 64.05


Something must be wrong with the uS system if the 29th ranked player makes No. 6 on your list.

Apathy maybe from the players not the people. Wasn't it at brookline that the gallery rushed on to the green to congratulate Leonard for his long putt before Olie finished putting?

Something to do with top 10 finishes only counting.
How bad would it be to finish 14th in 20 events and not get a single Ryder Cup point.