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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:39 PM
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The way Tiger is playing, I don't see anyone catching him. Especially if the course gets tougher.
I actually think conditions getting tougher would be the best bet for someone to catch him.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:43 PM
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The way Tiger is playing, I don't see anyone catching him. Especially if the course gets tougher.
I would disagree with that, I think that if the weather gets difficult the europeans will stand a better chance.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:46 PM
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I actually think conditions getting tougher would be the best bet for someone to catch him.
I still don't quite understand these types of observations. They are used all of the time though. Does this mean that we have concluded that Tiger cannot perform under tough course conditions? Does it mean that the rest of the field has an advantage over Tiger if the conditions get more difficult. I don't believe so.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:47 PM
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The way Tiger is playing, I don't see anyone catching him. Especially if the course gets tougher.

Ernie already did. He's one shot back.

Remember the Open a couple years ago where Tiger shot an 80 and Ernie played around par through the worst weather ever? It could happen again.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:57 PM
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Yet another one of these predictions/statements of FACT? I'm probably one of the biggest Tiger fans around here, but I try to be realistic about it. He's right where he needs to be and I like his chances this weekend, but it's not over at all. What if he goes out and struggles like he did last year in the 3rd round? And what if, while struggling, someone else shoots a ridiculously good score and passes him? He's never won a major coming from behind, so I wouldn't call this anywhere near a lock until he's through 9 holes on Sunday with a 2+ shot lead.
I couldn't agree more, however......Tiger has NEVER lost a major when leading after 36 or 54 holes....that is as close to a lock as you can get with so much golf remaining.
(Also, anyone else ever wonder why Tiger isn't willing to hit 2 iron- 5 iron on "regular" stateside courses when he is only hitting 4/14 fairways? I realize this course is playing VERY fast, however it would still seem with as good as his mid to long iron play is, that he would be better off hitting approaches from 210 yards from the short-grass than wedges from the trees...but that's just me)
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Old July 21st, 2006, 02:58 PM
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I still don't quite understand these types of observations. They are used all of the time though. Does this mean that we have concluded that Tiger cannot perform under tough course conditions? Does it mean that the rest of the field has an advantage over Tiger if the conditions get more difficult. I don't believe so.
I'll try to explain. It means that Tiger is on cruise control. He has this course under these conditions down pat. He's eating it up. His confidence level is off the charts. If it starts to really blow and/or rain it will change the way he has to play the course. This could play away from his strengths and possibly change his mindset. I guess my overriding point is I think it's over if conditions stay the same. Some nasty weather brings in more variables which he may or may not struggle with, luck being amongst them.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM
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Great stuff from Ernie.
Hopefully he keeps it going and takes the title.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:27 PM
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Ernie already did. He's one shot back.

Remember the Open a couple years ago where Tiger shot an 80 and Ernie played around par through the worst weather ever? It could happen again.
But remember all the other tournaments where Els has faded after a great start, typically due to weather conditions? Ernie still hasn't proven that he can definitely beat Tiger head to head. Perhaps he'll do it this weekend, but don't count on Tiger throwing up an 80 on the board tomorrow. That was an aberration. Besides, if we hold everyone to the 80's they've shot in bad weather (or even good weather), I'm pretty sure Els has a far LONGER list of terrible scores in majors than Tiger does. In fact, isn't that the only 80 Tiger has shot in a major?
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:34 PM
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look out for Scott, Jimenez and Goosen, i might sound a bit of a looney but i think the winner comes from one of these. ofcourse it is Tiger's to lose (and someone to make a charge ofcourse), ive got a funny feeling he might just do that.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:37 PM
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look out for Scott, Jimenez and Goosen, i might sound a bit of a looney but i think the winner comes from one of these. ofcourse it is Tiger's to lose (and someone to make a charge ofcourse), ive got a funny feeling he might just do that.
They'll probably play well, but I honestly think it's basically down to Tiger and Els at this point. If Tiger and Els just take care of their business on the par 5's for example, they've made par a 68...that makes it really difficult for anyone to come from further back to catch them. Adam Scott's putting is never hot enough for him to really make a big run like that. Goosen is the one I'd watch out for. He started off great today but kind of leveled off after a while. His putting was really good until the 17th where he 3-putted.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:42 PM
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They'll probably play well, but I honestly think it's basically down to Tiger and Els at this point. If Tiger and Els just take care of their business on the par 5's for example, they've made par a 68...that makes it really difficult for anyone to come from further back to catch them. Adam Scott's putting is never hot enough for him to really make a big run like that. Goosen is the one I'd watch out for. He started off great today but kind of leveled off after a while. His putting was really good until the 17th where he 3-putted.
Scott hasn't been able to finish the job off recently, but if he has to make a charge instead of having to win from the front, then who knows, i know im expecting good things from him. as i say about jimenez in every tournament when he is near the top, he is dangerous and is very capable of going low and certainly knows how to win (just not on this stage, but should be very capable if he is near on sunday). as for Goosen, he is dangerous in any tournament or Major when he is near the top, if he brings his putting boots, watch out for the charge. i really can't see Els and Tiger playing together in the final group on sunday.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:44 PM
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Scott hasn't been able to finish the job off recently, but if he has to make a charge instead of having to win from the front, then who knows, i know im expecting good things from him. as i say every tournament when he is near the top, Jimenez is dangerous and is very capable of going low. as for Goosen, he is dangerous in any tournament or Major when he is near the top, if he brings his putting boots, watch out for the charge. i really can't see Els and Tiger playing together in the final group on sunday.
Yeah, it'll be Tiger and someone else who's 2+ shots behind just like last year.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:46 PM
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Yeah, it'll be Tiger and someone else who's 2+ shots behind just like last year.
trust me, it doesn't have to be Tiger playing in the final group on sunday (although i expect it will), could just as easily be Els and someone else. Tomorrow is a BIG story in the making, i can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:47 PM
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Scott hasn't been able to finish the job off recently, but if he has to make a charge instead of having to win from the front, then who knows, i know im expecting good things from him. as i say about jimenez in every tournament when he is near the top, he is dangerous and is very capable of going low and certainly knows how to win (just not on this stage, but should be very capable if he is near on sunday). as for Goosen, he is dangerous in any tournament or Major when he is near the top, if he brings his putting boots, watch out for the charge. i really can't see Els and Tiger playing together in the final group on sunday.
i have to agree with you on this one london, the top six are all very capable of taking the bull by the horn because they all know how to win.
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Old July 21st, 2006, 03:52 PM
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After his round, Tiger was asked by some media person, if he thought it was over. Tiger laughed ( he also had an incredulous expression, as if the person asking the question was an idiot) and said, "Do you see me holding the Claret Jug?" "There are thirty-six more holes to play."

I'm not going to place a bet against Woods, but anything can happen.
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