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Old July 27th, 2006, 08:55 PM
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She is a 16 yo that everyone is treating like she has already concquered the golfing world. When in fact she has yet to win ANYTHING.
First of all, she has won.

Secondlly, people are treating her like she has accomplished more than any other 16 year old has done professional whether it is a male or female. She certainly is a not a Sergio of today and she is not a Tiger of today, but is not out of context to compare her professionally to what those two and many other players have done up to and including the age of 16.

You might end up correct, but we have to wait a few years (five at least, I think) before your and the caller's comparison can be judged for validity.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 09:11 PM
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Im not so sure about that, if she is going to put herself in a position, as a professional, then i think irregardless of her age, with all of her hype, mostly created by the press but also some by herself and her people, then irregardless of her age, she is subject to the same criticism as any other professional. Again, im not knocking the girls talent, just the manner in which she is being promoted without having proven herself.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 09:18 PM
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michele wie will win her fair share of tournaments, but until she gets that "eye of the tiger" in her, wins will not be as many. waving to the crowd on every decent putt she makes, drives me nuts (oh, that's right, i am). it 's seems like she embarrest of her on course accomplishments.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 12:17 AM
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Michelle is a young lady of tremendous physical ability...that cannot be denied. However, for all those who feel the need to compare her to Tiger, it's becoming increasingly apparent as time goes on that we may not see another golfer with the talent of a Tiger and the absolute steely resolve and calm under pressure that Tiger has as well. Michelle would do well to do half of what Tiger has done...although I'm not saying she can't do more. She'll be a wonderful player on the LPGA for many years to come.

I think she's in this one to the end...as usual, it will come down to her short game late on the back nine on Sunday. She's bound to break through sometime...may as well be here.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:24 AM
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If Michelle Wie keeps being in the top 5 in most of her tournaments and if she wins one or two this year and next year, she will be the number one ranked player. I know many of you won't like it but I think it will happen. People will again argue about the minimum number of tournaments to be qualified for the ranking but Michelle didn't create the ranking system. And Rolex is not her sponsor either.


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Old July 28th, 2006, 02:21 AM
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Everyone seems to be comparing Wie to Tiger, when in fact it seems as though her career is more closely following that of Sergio. A contender quite often, but NOT A FINISHER.
Her career??? Her career hasn't even started yet. She won't be old enough to join the LPGA for another year or two. How can you compare her career to someone more than 10 years older than her.

Get used to it, she's ranked number 2 in the WORLD rankings because, on average, STATISTICALLY she does better than every single women golfer in the world other than Annika. That's a fact.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 03:57 AM
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They must mean the third highest paid athlete currently in France.
Wasn't that Landis? Oh no that was last week! Hope Michelle doesn't have elevated testosterone levels
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Old July 28th, 2006, 07:02 AM
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Her career??? Her career hasn't even started yet. She won't be old enough to join the LPGA for another year or two. How can you compare her career to someone more than 10 years older than her.
I guess the same way Tiger was being compared to Jack at a very early stage in his career.

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Old July 28th, 2006, 12:07 PM
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At this point comparisons to anyone are flawed. No one has done the things that she has done by the age of 16 or 17 or 18 or 19, for that matter. Tiger was tearing up the amatuer ranks during that time, while having little or no success during his few attempts in PGA Tour events. Sergio... well I'm not sure what he was doing , but I'm pretty sure he wasn't finishing in the top 5 of every professional event he entered, much less every major. I'm not sure what they have in common , other than neither could make a PGA Tour cut at 16 and they're both right-handed. Those who doubt Michelle should have their fun now. Forget the fact that she's 16. She isn't even allowed to play full time, yet she is on the top page of the learderboard every single time she tees it up. Suppose say Carmillo Villegas was 17 and not allowed to play a mens tour full time. Suppose he was making the top 5 in virtually every tournament and Major where he was give the opportunity. You don't think he'd be considered a phenomenon ? I think a more appropriate comparison would be David Duval before he broke through, except that he was much older and playing full time on the Tour. Michelle has a couple of things working against her trying to break through soon, that were unforeseen when she came on the scene. When she started out it was Annika and everyone else. Now you have Annika, the emergence of Ochoa, 2 Hall of Famers who have recently re-discovered their games(Webb & Se Ri Pak) and the continued improvement of a few of the Korean gals(which probably was not so unforeseen). She may not win this year or next. It may not come until she's granted full playing rights on the tour, but she will break though.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:03 PM
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So, Webb is now leading by one over Wie and two strokes ahead of Se Ri and Laura Davies, this should be interesting finish. For awhile it looked like Webb was going to runaway but she stumbled a bit in back nine and fell back to the pack.

Annika, Ochoa, MYK, and few others still have a shot as well.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:06 PM
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It looks as if Michelle parred 18 again. She needs to start taking advantage of those short par 5s.
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Michelle did birdied the 18th hole but she Bogied 17th hole.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:34 PM
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Michelle did birdied the 18th hole but she Bogied 17th hole.
OK, Thanks.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:59 PM
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Im not so sure about that, if she is going to put herself in a position, as a professional, then i think irregardless of her age, with all of her hype, mostly created by the press but also some by herself and her people, then irregardless of her age, she is subject to the same criticism as any other professional. Again, im not knocking the girls talent, just the manner in which she is being promoted without having proven herself.
Yes, you are knocking her talent, and not actually criticizing when you compare her at 16 to others who have more experience and expecially when you pick out the poor play as a comparision. As for the so-called "hype", she is about the most popular female golfer right now and therefore as with Tiger, she gets a lot of press. No one is doing anything out of the ordinary.

As for the being a professional think , that also is nonsense. Just because someone is in the public eye does not make them fair game for all the locos to rant and rave about them. Funny, but is so against the rules to pick on anyone posting on a PUBLIC discussion board, but it's okay for those posters to say derogatory remarks regarding someone they don't know. Double standard? Sure looks like it.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 02:01 PM
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I guess the same way Tiger was being compared to Jack at a very early stage in his career.
Yes, but they always compare Tiger to where Jack was at this stage of his career. Age vs. Age, Tiger is a tad bit ahead of Jack.

Age vs. Age, Michelle Wie is light years ahead of every human that has ever existed. That's the comparison that should be made and that's why she gets a lot of attention.
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