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Old August 7th, 2006, 11:14 AM
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Tiger act5ually talked to Peter Kostis

Anyone else notice that yesterday?

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http://www.golfdigest.com/newsandtou...50902view.html
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Old August 7th, 2006, 01:59 PM
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Didn't know Tiger had beef with Kostis
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:26 PM
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Sometimes I think Tiger can be such an immature little baby. Don't get me wrong - he's a great golfer and has done a lot for the game and certainly increases the number of viewers, but come on now, grow up and be man about it. Kostis and Ferety and as good as they come - both are gentlemen with great knowledge of the game. As Kostis said, he analyses not critisizes - and he does it objectively - so why does Tiger have to be such an immature spoiled brat about the whole thing.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:44 PM
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Sometimes I think Tiger can be such an immature little baby. Don't get me wrong - he's a great golfer and has done a lot for the game and certainly increases the number of viewers, but come on now, grow up and be man about it. Kostis and Ferety and as good as they come - both are gentlemen with great knowledge of the game. As Kostis said, he analyses not critisizes - and he does it objectively - so why does Tiger have to be such an immature spoiled brat about the whole thing.
Uh oh...

now you went and done it.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:50 PM
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Kostis has how many tour wins?
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Old August 7th, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Kostis has how many tour wins?
The same number as Hank Haney. He also has instructed more than 125 PGA, LPGA and Senior PGA Tour pros, including Jack Nicklaus, Tom Kite, Mark Calcavecchia, Davis Love III, Bernhard Langer, and Jumbo Ozaki.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 07:59 PM
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I wouldn't call one of Phil Mickelson's good instructor friends "objective," but for the most part I've agreed with his criticism of Tiger in the past.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 08:15 PM
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What exactly did Tiger do to make you think he acts like an "immature little baby/spoiled brat?
I would not agree with little baby, but he has had some "poor" moments with people that disagree with him. He does not like Johnny Miller either. He has shown poor temper on certain golf shots when he is not "whooping" the field. He gets a bit testy with the press when they asked him about his Ryder Cup record.

I personally think Tiger will be the greatest golfer of all time, but he does need to "grow up" a little and smile more often and just enjoy the moments. Jack was not beloved either until later in his career, when Jack realized that the fans and the sport were bigger than him. Faldo became a better person later in his career. I just do not see Tiger realizing this yet.

It could be that a family will help change this in Tiger, but I have my doubts. I sympathize for him about the intense attention he gets, but he needs to show some Ryder Cup spirit and show some genuine smiles along the way.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 08:31 PM
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...and show some genuine smiles along the way.

I agreed with most of what you said up until that ^ point. Tiger is one of the few players on Tour who DOES show genuine emotion and his smiles aren't fake, unless it's for a commercial. On the golf course, he is focused, but he definitely gets more excited and never "mails it in" like most players do. Most of the guys on Tour just give up after a certain point, but he's one of the few nowadays that doesn't (whereas back in Jack's time it seemed there were quite a few guys who never ever gave up no matter how bad things got for them).
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Old August 7th, 2006, 08:49 PM
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The same number as Hank Haney. He also has instructed more than 125 PGA, LPGA and Senior PGA Tour pros, including Jack Nicklaus, Tom Kite, Mark Calcavecchia, Davis Love III, Bernhard Langer, and Jumbo Ozaki.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 09:14 PM
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The great players and successful people doesn't take criticism very well, maybe it's because in their mind they know what they are doing (as the records indicate), therefore, some nobody doesn't need to tell them what they are doing wrong.

Is it right? Wrong? I don't know, but I do know these people are top of their profession.

Do we get along with everybody? Nope, for whatever the reason, certain people totally ticks you off and you'd want nothing to do with them and Tiger isn't any different, he is after all, a human (eek).
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Old August 7th, 2006, 09:16 PM
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Just more media being blown out of proportion.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 09:47 PM
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Jack and Tiger actually have very similar personalities when it comes to their profession, IMO. I think Tiger is a bit more demonstrative when he's upset with his play, but Jack was never Mr. Personality either... he still isn't, though he did have a tougher act to follow in Arnie.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 09:49 PM
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Well I think everytime they want to do a Minolta Swing Vision segment on Tiger, they should use the Nike commercial footage.

How beautiful is that swing? Wow!
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Old August 8th, 2006, 11:16 AM
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At the Memorial this year, there was reportedly a phone call from Woods' agent, Mark Steinberg, to CBS officials requesting that Kostis not be assigned to walk with Woods' group. (Not the first such call, supposedly.) The implication was clear: From now on, Kostis was on double-secret probation. No more post-round interviews.

This is an excerpt from the article MR3856a was refering to and that's just one example.
That is why I think Tiger is an immature spoiled baby. No other golfer would do that and no other golfer would get that consideration. I don't know whether or not CBS adhered to the request, but to make it in the first place suggests he feels that he should get special treatment. I'm sorry, but to use his power like that is arrogant and immature. If he got his way then he is certainly spoiled.
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