There just isn't enough people with an agenda to discredit anything Lorena does, for it to be even noticed.
True, but why not? Isn't she one of the top golfers on the LPGA right now? Hasn't many people compared her results to MW in order to put down MW's season (well, Lorena has won and MW hasn't, etc.). If they know so much about Lorena's year, why aren't they commenting regarding the odd way that her caddy was fired? Nope, there is only one fall guy (gal) around here and we all know who it is.
MW and the media circus that surrounds her have pointed all cameras and fingers in her direction. She has been forced upon the masses whether they want her or not and people have responded. They are either like you with unconditional admiration, defending her every move; or completely the opposite, where people pick her to shreds, because when you claim to be the next great thing, you need to meet expectations, regardless of age.
All of this energy, in equal parts positive and negative, is spent on her and few others. People who deserve spotlights don't get them so no one notices what they do or when they do it. The only way the news cares about anyone but MW is if they mention her in an interview.
Is it fair? ...probably not, but when they have gone about things the way they have the landscape is by their design. People see what they see not always by their choice, and they don't always react the way you do, or the Wie camp would like, but you need to accept the good with the bad.
Lorena is an incredible player, to whom the golfing world is mostly indifferent. People don't adore her as much as they should, but then again she can fire her caddy and the world walks right by like it never happened. When she had her early season victories, and all those high finishes, people again walked by like it never happened. With the good comes the bad.
Sometimes anonymous isn't so bad,
and sometimes being put on a pedestal is.
You are right about the good and the bad, but you do have to admit that the negativity towards Michelle Wie on most DB boards is so totally overboard with posts being made by people who have actually never seen Michelle play nor even know of her record. She is jumped on about every single thing she does from her speaking to her clothing to her not winning (2nd place is never good enough for that group), to turning pro and suddenly should become something she wasn't two minutes earlier. And, too, how much of the DB posts are positive? Less than 1/4 of posting on any golf-related board has anything positive to say about MW. If a thread is started stating how good she played in a tournament, for every good post there will be the usual group of ten put-downs.
Apparently, Michelle has seen or heard of all this negative stuff and although she has stated that in this country people are free to say what they want, she also stated that maybe people ought to think about the feelings of the person they are talking about. It is an indication they she does get upset about all the trash talk about her and her family.
You are right about the good and the bad, but you do have to admit that the negativity towards Michelle Wie on most DB boards is so totally overboard with posts being made by people who have actually never seen Michelle play nor even know of her record.
You know what I honestly think a lot of it stems from? And please don't take this as being confrontational or argumentative - but I honestly think a lot of it is people having it rammed down their throats, ie she's the best women's golfer, she'll break every record, she'll win 20 majors, she'll be a regular on the PGA Tour, etc. etc. etc.
We can all agree on one thing - she's a tremendous talent, almost without question the greatest upside in women's golf. However, I think what rubs people the wrong way is that instead of letting that be and just sitting back and watching her develop and progress, people are constantly being bombarded by people telling everyone how great she is.
Nobody doubts that. But I think most of the animosity towards her that her ardent supporters see is actually not animosity towards her at all, but rather towards them - her supporters - for constantly telling the world how good she is.
I think if people eased up a little bit and just let her game do the talking, there would be a lot less of a (misdirected) negative reaction towards her.
Last edited by mr3856a : August 16th, 2006 at 11:31 AM.
The difficulty with the anti-Wie debate is they put others in a firing line that they should not be in.
On the golf channel boards, they are putting Kimberly Kim as better than Michelle Wie and making all kind of claims about her, which are unfair to burden Kimberly with.
They are even claiming that Kimberly hits the ball longer than Fred Funk, which is a more outrageous claim about her driving ability than even the claims sometimes made about Wie's driving.
Kimberly would do well to make a few lpga cuts, and if she does anything more, it should be considered an excellent accomplishment.
However, I think what rubs people the wrong way is that instead of letting that be and just sitting back and watching her develop and progress, people are constantly being bombarded by people telling everyone how great she is.
Funny, I think it's the exact opposite. I ONLY post about Wie when I see someone post something overly harsh or negative about her. I would rarely post about Wie if people would just leave her alone.
Funny, I think it's the exact opposite. I ONLY post about Wie when I see someone post something overly harsh or negative about her. I would rarely post about Wie if people would just leave her alone.
One thing about it, most people have a very strong opinion one way or the other...Not a lot of ambivalence in this debate.
Funny, I think it's the exact opposite. I ONLY post about Wie when I see someone post something overly harsh or negative about her. I would rarely post about Wie if people would just leave her alone.
That's a "chicken-or-the-egg" distinction, though I guess it's perfectly understandable to see it from either end.
The caddy shoulda been fired for not refusing to give MW anything but her putter on the last hole of the Nabisco. How he could let her chip from the fringe is beyond me - as far beyond me as her chip went past that hole.
The caddy shoulda been fired for not refusing to give MW anything but her putter on the last hole of the Nabisco. How he could let her chip from the fringe is beyond me - as far beyond me as her chip went past that hole.
On the playoff hole, Lorena hit into the same position. However, instead of chipping, she took out the putter, and preceeded to putt the ball the same distance away from the hole as Michelle chipped it. Lorena also missed the putt back. She just sacked her caddie too by the way. Maybe there was delayed reactions from both players.
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