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Old August 10th, 2006, 07:42 PM
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We have conducted a lot of discussion about the pros and cons of Michelle Wie's game and the firing of her caddie. I guess we all have our opinions about her game and exemptions, etc.. But there's one thing maybe we haven't stopped to think about and that is that maybe something happened between Michelle and her caddie that none of us knows about. Just a thought and I hope that both of them will move on to success.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 02:19 PM
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Tiger sure found his "place" quick didn't he!
I'll say. A fellow U.T. Graduate (who I will not name, but he was a Harvey Penick alumni as well) was one of the nay-sayers. He was heard to say (in a not too quiet voice) "I don't see what the big deal is...It's all just a bunch of hype." He ate those words and a lot of dust as well as Tiger showed very quickly he was no Paper Tiger.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 03:51 PM
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I think that's true in hindsight. If you'll remember, there were more than a few players who were P.O'ed that Tiger got the exemptions and some even commented that he wasn't all that talented and the PGA tour would "put him in his place".
Yeah, they put him in his place, all right - they have to reach up to touch the bottom of his shoes
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Old August 11th, 2006, 03:55 PM
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We have conducted a lot of discussion about the pros and cons of Michelle Wie's game and the firing of her caddie. I guess we all have our opinions about her game and exemptions, etc.. But there's one thing maybe we haven't stopped to think about and that is that maybe something happened between Michelle and her caddie that none of us knows about.
I was reading on SI.com earlier that "Wie suffered a two-shot penalty after failing to heed her caddie's advice" at the British. They didn't elaborate, but I thought that was pretty interesting. I'd love to know the rest of that story...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.6.html
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Old August 11th, 2006, 04:04 PM
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I was reading on SI.com earlier that "Wie suffered a two-shot penalty after failing to heed her caddie's advice" at the British. They didn't elaborate, but I thought that was pretty interesting. I'd love to know the rest of that story...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.6.html

That has to be in relation to the moss in the bunker. Wondering if Johnston knew the rule correctly and she told him he was wrong?
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Old August 11th, 2006, 04:09 PM
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That has to be in relation to the moss in the bunker. Wondering if Johnston knew the rule correctly and she told him he was wrong?
Could very well be - she did say after the round that she "knew the rule differently," whatever the that's supposed to mean.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 05:07 PM
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Could very well be - she did say after the round that she "knew the rule differently," whatever the that's supposed to mean.
Yeah...I loved that "Knew the rule differently" thing...Is that anything like "Didn't know the rule at all"? Don't get me wrong...I like Michelle Wie a lot, but that was a very silly thing to say.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 06:28 PM
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Could very well be - she did say after the round that she "knew the rule differently," whatever the that's supposed to mean.
Im sorry officer, I know the sign said 55 but I knew the rule differently, thats why i was going 80.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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I was reading on SI.com earlier that "Wie suffered a two-shot penalty after failing to heed her caddie's advice" at the British. They didn't elaborate, but I thought that was pretty interesting. I'd love to know the rest of that story...
SI are not on good terms with the Wie's since the Hamburger incident (Bambuerger).
Their articles about Wie have no credibility.

By the way, the issue is settled, as regards her firing her caddie, and who delivered the news:
- The William Morris Agency were the ones who dealt with HIRING Johnston as Michelle's caddie, and so there was nothing wrong with them being the ones to deal with his sacking also.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 01:53 PM
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I challenge you to find any SI story that hasn't proven to be credible.
I'll pm you some examples. I've given SI enough publicity already.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 04:58 PM
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Could very well be - she did say after the round that she "knew the rule differently," whatever the that's supposed to mean.
Apparently from what I have read, there is some confusion in some people's mind with regard to what the USGA considers the swing which is by definition, only the forward motion. The touching on the backswing is apparently what Michelle said she misunderstood as she though the swing was the entire motion (at least that was what she said).
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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:21 AM
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SI are not on good terms with the Wie's since the Hamburger incident (Bambuerger).
Their articles about Wie have no credibility.
Why do SI articles about her have have no credibility just because the Wie family is not on good terms with them?
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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:14 PM
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i'll bet johnston is relieved to be fired. i know i would be. i couldn't spend that much time with someone who looks like michelle wie. i'd go nuts!
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Old August 14th, 2006, 11:21 PM
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Wie, when interviewed mentioned that even after a rules mistake, would not read the rule book (to dry). That sounds like a prima dona to me or a 16 year old that has been catered to.
PGA Pro's (which she aspires to) study and plan strategies for the courses they play. The caddie is part of the team offering advice, but ultimately the pro makes the decision.
It looked like Wie's caddy was fired because he was a lousy baby sitter.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 11:32 PM
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She really lives under a microscope...who knows what the situation was...and she IS only 16...would a formal meeting with lawyers present where Michelle and her father sat down with the caddy, looked eye to eye and carefully explained reasons and agreed to severance terms have been better? It didn't work out and they let the caddy go...in the end the caddy is out of a job and a dissatisfied golfer is looking for the missing piece of the puzzle (something that we can all relate to esp. the driver of the quarter crowd and owners of multiple putters - guilty!)
She chose the job. She is well compensated for great potential and above average performance. Her age doesn't wash. Either she is old enough to compete and win or she is just a new ploy for Nike to sell clubs.

As for the caddy it is a business decision. They wanted a change. Can't change Michele, can't get rid of daddy and the swing coach can't walk the course and tell the kid what the rules are.
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