There should be more then one official to help with multi rulings in a game like that one.
I believe a good part of the delay resulted from them deciding to let the group behind play through. To be fair to that group, they had to let them finish before continuing with the drops, associated crowd movements, etc. It wasn't just Tiger, McGinley and the officials out there. There were also several thousand people milling around who had to be controlled and kept out of the field of play.
I believe a good part of the delay resulted from them deciding to let the group behind play through. To be fair to that group, they had to let them finish before continuing with the drops, associated crowd movements, etc. It wasn't just Tiger, McGinley and the officials out there. There were also several thousand people milling around who had to be controlled and kept out of the field of play.
Duh!!!Good response,I forgot about the crowd,etc.There was only one crowd here,ME.
I don't know which hole it was on, I just heard that he'd hit it onto a tent. Since tents are generally not conducive to climbing onto, I wondered if something similar had happened.
Did you read the transcript by the way? Specifically the bit here:
Q. What would have happened if you hadn't found a ball?
MIKE SHEA: If we hadn't found a ball, then we would have operated under a rule that deals with a ball lost in an obstruction, the obstruction being the clubhouse, and there's another rule procedure, and Tiger would have dropped the ball somewhere between the grandstand and the clubhouse where the ball would have entered on top of the clubhouse, the nearest point of relief from that. Once he dropped that ball, then he would have taken relief from the grandstand behind the 9 green.
So he probably would have ended up playing his shot closer to the green than what he did, but it would have been towards the same on the same angle, but it would have been 30, 40, 50 yards closer to the flag stick probably.
DILLARD PRUITT: Probably as close close to where Paul played.
MIKE SHEA: Well, I think Paul's ball was right behind the grandstand and that was 30 yards, and I was thinking another 10 or 15 yards to the clubhouse, so maybe 20 yards further. It might have been a 50 yard shot that Tiger Woods had as opposed to a the 5 yard shot.
Maybe, and this is purely conjecture on my part, they lowered the bar for "reasonable evidence" on the grounds that if it was lost, then they'd have given Tiger an advantageous position anyway and decided that was not equitable when they were reasonably sure where the ball was.
Finally, how on god's green earth can you be in or on an IO and not be given relief. Do you not get relief when you are resting on a cart path? I think you'll find that you do (unless it's an integral part of the course). That has just as much impact as lying on carpet. The only possible way that you didn't would be if there was a patch of grass in the middle that wasn't part of the IO and that was big enough to swing a club. I doubt very much if such a patch existed.
The interesting bit is about how or when they "found a ball". Shea said they determined what happened "seconds" before the end of the 5 minute search period.
It would have taken Johnny Cochrane a lot less time to demolish that defence.
and if they hadn't found it, what would have happened? It's not interesting at all. It's dull because it would have made little difference to the outcome.
If they hadn't found it, it would have been lost; he would have played his fourth shot from where he played his second and it is highly unlikely he would have made a five. Then he wouldn't have tied with Cink and been in a play-off. He wouldn't have won the tournament.
Stewart Cink might not agree with you about it making no difference to the outcome.
More important than that, it would not have put people into two camps - those who support Tiger at all costs and those who value the game.
This is not the first time these two groups have been in conflict and it makes me wonder about some aspects of Tiger's impact on the game. Making a few pros a lot richer is a high price to pay for the threat to the game's values and spirit.
If they hadn't found it, it would have been lost; he would have played his fourth shot from where he played his second and it is highly unlikely he would have made a five. Then he wouldn't have tied with Cink and been in a play-off. He wouldn't have won the tournament.
Stewart Cink might not agree with you about it making no difference to the outcome.
So you didn't read the quote then. Oh well. Not much point discussing this with you then is there?
Swingaling with all due respect you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. Tiger got a proper ruling based on the IOR. Tiger is not the only player to ever get that type of ruling but he is on TV significantly more than the average tour player. The rules officials give the IOR pretty liberally to ALL players.
it'll only show the obvious...... he's a beast when it comes to ball striking... I don't know thr rules well enough to comment, but the club house SHOULD be considered "OB",...the white stakes I see on the courses I play, are usually the homeowners prop line as close as they are..and the HOUSES are OB..
either way... 200 is a dream for me ,with the exception of the 3 iron on down..and then it's acrap-shoot ..
August 27th, 2006, 08:26 PM
as close as they are..and the HOUSES are OB.. 
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