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Old August 26th, 2006, 05:24 AM
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The rules of golf - and Tiger rules

Am I the only one with a bad taste in his mouth today? Tha scene on the 9th at the WGC was a travesty. Who else would a 30 minute grace period to sort out a ruling, and who else would get a ruling that someone reporting seeing someone put a ball in his pocket (its a golf course for god's sake) constitutes "resonable evidence". What a joke, and how come Tiger didn't even hit a provisional? Did he know that someohow the "system" would come to his rescue?

The commentators on Sky were making a big deal of how Tiger was aloof from it all and left it to the officials. Like **** he did; he went straight into the clubhouse and was in the face of some poor oficial, with the TV cameras behind him. In any other group, the other players would have said "C'mon pal", it's lost, get over it" However everyone is so intimidated by Woods and "grateful" for the extra bucks he has put in their collective pockets that they let this kind of thing happen without a whimper. Shame on McGinley and Gore and shame on the PGA for sullying the ethics and values of the game.

If Tiger has the interests of the game at heart and he is often said to have, he should knock down his drive at his first hoile today and take the 6 he should have had (at minimum) on his 18th yesterday. Will it happen? Let's watch.

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Old August 26th, 2006, 06:19 AM
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After his shot (while walking to the green) Tiger asked the official if the area behind the green was OB and he was told, NO. That's why he didn't hit a provisional. Then, with the grandstand being an imovable obstruction he got a free drop no closer to the hole.

What was he supposed to do, tell the officials that they don't know what they are doing and tell them that he's walking back to the location of his 2nd shot and play it like it was OB? That's no logical.

He won't do anything like you describe. He's following the rules. In golf, the rules can help you some times.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 08:25 AM
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If you can't see where a ball finished and there is a risk of not finding it, it is normal practice to hit a provisional. I think the roof of the clubhouse constitutes a reasonably risky area in that regard.

Tiger's ball was never found and never identified. The ball in the guy's pocket (allegedly) may or may not have been his - assuming it ever existed -and we don't know where it had ended up, even if it was his.

The series of assumptions is ridiculous and wouldn't survive a rules inquiry in any club competition for more than 30 seconds. Good peak time TV though, and I guess that's what counts where Tiger rules.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 08:29 AM
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Of course, most people are afraid of the rules {if they know them at all}and dont realize that they are a help lots of times
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Old August 26th, 2006, 08:30 AM
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it was a 200+ yard 9 iron... i still cant get over that....
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Old August 26th, 2006, 09:23 AM
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The situation was a joke.

No way should something be left dangling on for that long.

IT WAS NOT TIGER'S FAULT.
However, it was the fault of the officials who should have made a quicker ruling, and he should have been penalised.
If the rules were followed, then the rules are wrong, and should be changed immediately for the next tournament, because they are a joke.
Someone who hits such a horrendous shot should be penalised, whereas he got a free drop and was in a great position. That is just not fair, and that's where the problem is.

Some things happen in golf like someone gets a lucky bounce from the rough that knocks them into the fairway a few feet away, or they get a lucky bounce on the green.
However someone should not be able to hit it as far off line and off distance and get away with it.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 09:34 AM
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The situation was a joke.

No way should something be left dangling on for that long.

IT WAS NOT TIGER'S FAULT.
However, it was the fault of the officials who should have made a quicker ruling, and he should have been penalised.
If the rules were followed, then the rules are wrong, and should be changed immediately for the next tournament, because they are a joke.
Someone who hits such a horrendous shot should be penalised, whereas he got a free drop and was in a great position. That is just not fair, and that's where the problem is.

Some things happen in golf like someone gets a lucky bounce from the rough that knocks them into the fairway a few feet away, or they get a lucky bounce on the green.
However someone should not be able to hit it as far off line and off distance and get away with it.
The clubhouse to any golf course should be designated as out of bounds.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 10:55 AM
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You really can't blame Tiger. It appears it was the rules officials that botched this one. The PGA tour officials arrive at a venue at least 1 week in advance and check out all problem areas of the course. Obviously this area really shouldn't have been a problem as it was quite a ways out of play. But then again, there have probably not been too many 210 nine irons hit in the history of golf. Tiger caught the flyer of all flyers. if you heard the news conference after, Tiger stated that he could not believe the ball wasn't out of bounds. The official told him it was not.

The thing to do is learn the Rules of Golf and use them to your advantage. They are niether there to penallize or help a player, they are there to make the game equitable for all.

I guarantee you Tiger knows the rules as good as anyone, and he knows how to apply them.

I guarantee that area will be OB for next years tournament.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 11:42 AM
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215 yard 9 iron, i could hit 300 balls everyday and not carry my 9 iron 215, he must of caught a super flyer, haha then he hit a 90 yard lob wedge in, guy is super human im telling you
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Old August 26th, 2006, 11:51 AM
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Rodney c is right, It is not Tigers fault. I have seen questionable rules before and it helped the PGA Pro asking the question. If you can get relief legally, then I say do it. (Leave Tiger alone, he's good and you know it !!!!!)
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Old August 26th, 2006, 11:53 AM
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215 yard 9 iron, i could hit 300 balls everyday and not carry my 9 iron 215, he must of caught a super flyer, haha then he hit a 90 yard lob wedge in, guy is super human im telling you
I'll tell ya... it is incredible. I am a pretty good long ball hitter. I just cant fathom that. I hit my 7 iron 175...and think with a perfect contact... incredibly hard swing, I might be able to push that to 200...but a 9 iron... no chance...
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Old August 26th, 2006, 11:59 AM
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215 9 iron.......... Tiger we need a blood sample
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Old August 26th, 2006, 12:07 PM
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215 9 iron.......... Tiger we need a blood sample
Lynchem Finchem says "No Drug Tests Needed Here!"

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Old August 26th, 2006, 12:10 PM
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On two occasions I have miraculously carried my PW at least 50 yards longer than normal. These were freakish mis-swings (with good contact). Just as bad as plopping the ball 50 yards short in the water IMO.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM
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While it is totally unacceptable for the rules officials to take 35 minutes to resolve that issue. I believe that at the same time, they were also getting a ruling on McGinley, who also hit his ball past the road.
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