Well, she's apparently bombing so far, though they're about to start showing her round on the Golf Channel. Apparently she's, like, way over, dude, through 11 and dragging Dougherty down with her*.
They asked M-A Jimenez what he thought, his response was basically "a professional golfer shouldn't be out here trying to make cuts, you should enter tournaments you think you can win."
Anyway, my 75-78=MC prediction is looking pretty good right now.
* Edit: apparently Dougherty's been stinking it up for a while now, so that's all on him.
never a truer word spoke than what Miguel has said, and maybe if she thought that way, she may have more of a chance of a cut made, infact not thinking about anything but your golf game at the present moment may (would) help (easier said than done though).
i don't rate Dougherty as a great player anyway (a good (maybe great) player at times, but so inconsistent, like many others), can't put any blame on anyone else there for his score, and i don't think he would anyway. i think my prediction that she will only be a couple of the cut mark, seems terribly wrong. i now predict she will go and shoot another high 70 or even higher tomorrow.
never a truer word spoke than what Miguel has said, and maybe if she thought that way, she may have more of a chance of a cut made,
Just for the record she was asked about her aspirations before it. She said obvious I want to make the cut, want to be in the top 20, want to win it and want to shoot a 54 in it, but I'll just try my hardest.
I think the only reason she started mentioning cuts before, is because she said before the Sony 2005 that she was hoping to be in the top 20, and she was heavily critisised at thes time.
So she says she wants to make the cut, she's critisised for not wanting more.
If she says she wants top 20 she is called arrogent.
The best is just to say I hope to play well and leave it at that.
Just for the record she was asked about her aspirations before it. She said obvious I want to make the cut, want to be in the top 20, want to win it and want to shoot a 54 in it, but I'll just try my hardest.
I think the only reason she started mentioning cuts before, is because she said before the Sony 2005 that she was hoping to be in the top 20, and she was heavily critisised at thes time.
So she says she wants to make the cut, she's critisised for not wanting more.
If she says she wants top 20 she is called arrogent.
The best is just to say I hope to play well and leave it at that.
if she says I came here to win, I would have more respect for that then make a cut. Her best bet is to win about 10 or so times on the lpga before coming back with the men. I looked on thegolfchannel website and it has 1 win by her name, what did she win ?
Wie shot a +7 78 in the first round. Her endorsement deal with Omega probably requires her to play the tournament.
This is a prime example of the reckless use of an exemption by a sponsor. At one time, sponsors granted exemptions to exceptional players who might be having a rough season, but had played well in the past. Until Wie, exemptions were not given to players of really poor ability.
I think that was me (defending you rodney_c) in the "Michelle Wie, Ryder Cupper?" thread.
Yes, you are one of the good guys.
But top 20 was pushing it a bit.
By the way, Jason Day who is an outstanding young talent, and had placings of 11th and 13th on the pga tour, and would have been top 5 only for some late bogeys.
Well obviously he is really talented, but he tried the European Tour and found the going tough like Michelle. He missed the cut, and in his two rounds, he had: 1 triple bogey, 1 double bogey and 7 bogeys.
Sometimes American's think European courses would be easy because the players aren't ranked so high, but send over guys who can be good on pga courses and they often come up short on Euro course layouts.
I looked on thegolfchannel website and it has 1 win by her name, what did she win ?
The Womens Amateur Publinx.
They include usga victories on the players victory list. Morgan's Pressel's win is included in her bio also.
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if she says I came here to win, I would have more respect for that then make a cut. Her best bet is to win about 10 or so times on the lpga before coming back with the men.
I don't agree about winning 10 times on the lpga before competing against the men, but I think she might be served better competiting against men of lower standard, like on the Asian, Japanese, and even the Nationwide Tour and European Challenge Tour.
Just for the record she was asked about her aspirations before it. She said obvious I want to make the cut, want to be in the top 20, want to win it and want to shoot a 54 in it, but I'll just try my hardest.
I think the only reason she started mentioning cuts before, is because she said before the Sony 2005 that she was hoping to be in the top 20, and she was heavily critisised at thes time.
So she says she wants to make the cut, she's critisised for not wanting more.
If she says she wants top 20 she is called arrogent. The best is just to say I hope to play well and leave it at that.
there is no hope i play well about it, i am definately going to play well is the only way to go in Professional Golf (especially for a player who is in Wie's position), seems to me like she doesn't believe in herself as much as you believe in her. it doesn't sound to me like she believes she can do it, and if she is thinking that, then she isn't going to do it.
I don't agree about winning 10 times on the lpga before competing against the men, but I think she might be served better competiting against men of lower standard, like on the Asian, Japanese, and even the Nationwide Tour and European Challenge Tour.
I am sure that by agreeing with Rodney_C, I may invite the complete distruction of the world, but here goes.
I think she found where she should be playing when she made a cut in Korea. It gives her the opportunity to compete at a higher level, while keeping the press (and people like me) off her back. Asian Tour would love to have her, the EUR Challenge Tour would also love to have her play. Japan also would be thrilled.
The one problem here is money. Companies sacrificed a lot of money to get the exposure that she can bring playing where she does. They won't get alot of coverage with her playing in Asia. Her sponsers want her playing here, on american TV. That's why they gave her all that money.
I don't agree about winning 10 times on the lpga before competing against the men, but I think she might be served better competiting against men of lower standard, like on the Asian, Japanese, and even the Nationwide Tour and European Challenge Tour.
i would say a Woman who wants to compete at the highest level of professional Golf in the Male dominated tours needs a lot more than 10 victories in the LPGA. playing vs men of a lower standard like the Challenge tour isn't going to do too much for her, i very much doubt she would have a good chance for a win, so it would be just like playing to make cuts again. 10 wins on the LPGA is a lot better than 20 Cuts made on the Nationwide and Challenge tours etc...
she is not of a high enough standard to compete at anywhere near a PGA player's level, leave it at that really.
so what if she makes a cut, where does she go from there?, trying to make more cuts on the PGA or European tour?
Wie shot a +7 78 in the first round. Her endorsement deal with Omega probably requires her to play the tournament.
This is a prime example of the reckless use of an exemption by a sponsor. At one time, sponsors granted exemptions to exceptional players who might be having a rough season, but had played well in the past. Until Wie, exemptions were not given to players of really poor ability.
At the Russian Open, a guy who used to be a pro tennis player got an exemption. Evgeni Kafelnikov is his name.
He shot 88 96 to be +40.
There are plenty of people with not near as much talent as Wie who get exemptions.
Also, even at the Omega where Michelle obviously played poorly in the first round, there were still 2 of the other sponsors exemptions shot a worse score.
Lee*SLATTERY and Julien*CLÉMENT both shot +7 for the round.
Just for the record she was asked about her aspirations before it. She said obvious I want to make the cut, want to be in the top 20, want to win it and want to shoot a 54 in it, but I'll just try my hardest.
I WANT...I WANT...I WANT...I WANT. I guess that's what happens when you spoil kids with $10M+. My perception is that she's out there to have fun. Which is not really a bad thing, and I think in a few years she will grow up and get a lot better and dominate the LPGA. For now, she is contributing to the game because of her popularity, she is a pop icon, so to speak, but as a competitive athlete, I think what will push her to the next level is
Hey, did you guys know that Emmitt Smith is going to be on Dancing with the Stars? He's going to be partnered with Cheryl Burke, and it starts next Tuesday.
September 7th, 2006, 01:20 PM
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