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Old September 23rd, 2006, 06:58 PM
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Who has been the best player in the Ryder Cup ???

I think the best player has been Sergio Garcia and i think he will take full points... But a close second Paul Casey what an amazing hole in one

Darren Clarke his the man unbelievable
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 07:02 PM
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^^ i think i agree, but still on sunday when it comes down to majors, sergio will never be in the same boat as any of the greats, too bad for him, we see how good sergio can be when hes at his best, but nerves kick in, then he falls in majors
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 07:09 PM
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what is amazing is that every player agrees that in the Ryder cup they are a lot more nervous than in any other stroke tournament, yet Garcia seems to relish the intense pressure of the Ryder cup and comes out on top.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 07:10 PM
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I feel sergio has has stepped up to the greats plate and he is the complete golfer this week.......
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 07:19 PM
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^^ this week, but will you repeat the statement next year when he goes major-less again?
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 07:34 PM
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Well you can always throw that back at Garcia and his fans, but it doesn't lessen the feat one iota. Within the context of being a complete or truly great touring pro, sure. But the topic is the RC, so give him his just due.
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I think Sergio is the best player ever in Ryder Cup history.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 08:20 PM
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^^ this week, but will you repeat the statement next year when he goes major-less again?
You do know that Sergio is only 26 years old, right ? There is no reason that to think that he won't eventually overcome his major problems. He is usually in the mix and he is WAY too young with WAY too much talent to write him off yet.

Ben Hogan
Arnold Palmer
Lee Trevino
Nick Faldo

4 guys off the top of my head who were years older than Sergio when they won their 1st major.

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Old September 23rd, 2006, 08:31 PM
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Yes, Sergio has been The Man. Mr. Ryder Cup.

It's interesting to see the career Ryder Cup records of some of the greatest American golfers of the last half-century. Jack's record was quite mundane. Both Phil and Tiger have uninspiring records, as well. As did Arnold Palmer.

Then you look at some of the European fellas who have admittedly struggled in global stroke play championships...guys like Colin Montgomerie, Sergio and Lee Westwood...and they have very good Ryder Cup records. Hard to figure. It's a mystery.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 08:59 PM
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droogy33, you're usually pretty good with stats, you're not one to shoot from the lip.

Mr. Palmer's 22-8-2 is one of the better win percentages of all time (so long as you qualify that with a minimum number, e.g., discount those who only played one or two RC).

While Jack (by his own standard) had his moments of mediocrity in the RC - two losses on the same day to Brian Barnes come to mind - his own record of 17-8-3 shouldn't get him lumped in with the current lot.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 09:13 PM
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droogy33, you're usually pretty good with stats, you're not one to shoot from the lip.

Mr. Palmer's 22-8-2 is one of the better win percentages of all time (so long as you qualify that with a minimum number, e.g., discount those who only played one or two RC).

While Jack (by his own standard) had his moments of mediocrity in the RC - two losses on the same day to Brian Barnes come to mind - his own record of 17-8-3 shouldn't get him lumped in with the current lot.
Thanks BPC. You beat me to it. Arnold actually has THE best win percentage of Americans who've played in more than 1 or 2.
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I think part of Sergio's magic in the RC so far is that he knows that someone else is there to help out if he makes a mistake. That relaxes him, he doesn't try to force things, and his true talent takes over. His iorn play has ben amazing, and even his putting has been better than usual. That one sculled wedge shot on 18 was reminiscent of the Sergio that tries to make things happen, Lucky for him it wasn't too big of a goof.

Once he learns to trust his talent and not try to force something to happen, especially on the final day, he'll be able to win a major. He also needs to learn to keep his mouth shut and not whine about everybody else getting the breaks during the majors. I think the boy just has some growing up to do!
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Sergio has been the fireplug on that team, but I think Casey and Westwood are playing just as good. Casey's win last week has really got his confidence at a sky-high right now.
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