Among the prominent players failing to advance to the Q-School finals were former PGA Tour regulars including Keith Clearwater, Gabriel Hjertstedt, Bobby Clampett, Gary Hallberg, Steve Pate, Brian Henninger, Jim Gallagher Jr., Willie Wood, Tommy Tolles, Jim McGovern, Grant Waite, David Gossett, Robert Damron, Mike Hulbert, Dick Mast, Len Mattiace and Blaine McCallister.
Its just amazing to me to see all the guys that used to be so promising now struggling to play on the tour. I suppose it goes to show how you have to continue improving just to stay on the tour.
Q-school: Did you see Trevino's comment a few weeks ago?
He was criticizing the tour for having too many card-carrying members, what, 125 for 150 spots or so?, then when you calculate the sponsors exemptions, there's only a handful of spots to actually qualify for. He criticized that many get their card because they already have it and play bad enough they're on the bottom tier, but good enough to retain their card. He suggested the tour cut back to like 90 or so that have their PGA tour card and let their be a more generaous qualifying for the remaining 60 spots. Because even if you pass Q-school, it doesn't guarantee you get into a tournament unless the field is short that week. So if you can't get into a tournament, how are you supposed to win enough to make top 125 on the money list?
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Originally Posted by 1231963
Its just amazing to me to see all the guys that used to be so promising now struggling to play on the tour. I suppose it goes to show how you have to continue improving just to stay on the tour.
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Because even if you pass Q-school, it doesn't guarantee you get into a tournament unless the field is short that week. So if you can't get into a tournament, how are you supposed to win enough to make top 125 on the money list?
There is no doubt that players in the top 30-40 and get into all the top money tournys have a huge advantage over the rest who only get in the smaller ones that pay a lot less. But if you're good enough ( like Tiger ) you get the the top and make the big money.
I see Lee Janzen is playing, I would have thought he'd have some sort of exempt status. He could probably except a lot of sponser invites but would rather be fully exempt..
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hopefully he'll make it.
Bad news - he didn't earn his PGA Tour card. Broke 70 once in six rounds and finished T86th.
Good news - 41st-90th earned full time status on the Nationwide Tour.
What's the limit on sponsors exemptions, 8? No doubt Lee will be splitting his time between both tours next year, he'll have no trouble getting into events.
I was glad to see Alex Cejka earn his card again. A few weeks ago he also qualified for his European Card but wanted to continue to play on the U.S. tour.
Bad news - he didn't earn his PGA Tour card. Broke 70 once in six rounds and finished T86th.
Good news - 41st-90th earned full time status on the Nationwide Tour.
What's the limit on sponsors exemptions, 8? No doubt Lee will be splitting his time between both tours next year, he'll have no trouble getting into events.
I was glad to see Alex Cejka earn his card again. A few weeks ago he also qualified for his European Card but wanted to continue to play on the U.S. tour.
Among the prominent players failing to advance to the Q-School finals were former PGA Tour regulars including Keith Clearwater, Gabriel Hjertstedt, Bobby Clampett, Gary Hallberg, Steve Pate, Brian Henninger, Jim Gallagher Jr., Willie Wood, Tommy Tolles, Jim McGovern, Grant Waite, David Gossett, Robert Damron, Mike Hulbert, Dick Mast, Len Mattiace and Blaine McCallister.
At the pro level this game can be brutal if you underperform. It's also what I love about it. EVERY PLAYER on the PGA Tour has to earn there spot by PLAYING. There are no big signing bonuses or no cut contracts. The only way you really get to cruise is if you get exemptions for winning or winning a major, but again you have to perform to those exemptions. And the only last for a limited time,. Bottom line, you either perform or your gone.
Nice to see young Anthony Kim and Paul Stankowski after poor opening rounds shoot three rounds in the sixties and climb right back into position to get their cards.
I really like Anthony Kim. I look for him to be an up and comming star on the PGA Tour. It looks like he's got game and a competitive spirit. He was -11 on Monday and actually got mad because he made bogey on a hole when he pretty much had his card wrapped up.
Wow is he a big question mark. I don't know if he even made a cut this year. Seems like he was always at the bottom of the list. His play at q- school is supprising.
When Bowditch endded up flaming out and finishing well back of the field. I heard during one of the telecast he's actually been diagnosed with clinical depression and he'll receive a medical exemption to compete in some PGA Tour events this year.
Q-School is always great to watch but if you want some real golf action you have to watch the final round. There's a reason Q-School is called the most grueling tournament in golf and the final round is that reason. Monday's finish is a piece of cake for those 4-5 shots inside "the number" but those within a shot or two of that number are entertaining to watch. Some play inspired golf and some are a train wreck but all of them are under extreme pressure to perform well enough to earn that coveted Tour Card. Fun stuff to watch!
The Stadium Course had the 17th hole called "Alcatraz", a par 3 over water. You could tell the stress was getting to a lot of guys because a bunch of them ended up wet. You'd think guys would make club selections that guaranteed they carried the water.
He was in a skills competition about four years ago with a bunch of well known pros and darned if he didn't win it. But I think that was his last shot at glory.
If Ty doesn't give up on himself and he still has a passion for the game he's still young enough to have a fine pro career. You have to wonder what's holding him back because he obviously has the physical tools to play the game.
Here are the 40 players who earned their 2007 PGA TOUR cards and their six-round total:
George McNeill -- 409
Robert Garrigus -- 414
Rich Barcelo -- 415
Anders Hansen -- 417
Cameron Beckman -- 417
John Merrick -- 417
Steve Wheatcroft -- 418
Stephen Marino -- 419
Paul Stankowski -- 419
Tom Johnson -- 419
Bob Heintz -- 419
Paul Gow -- 419
Ryan Armour -- 420
John Mallinger -- 420
Anthony Kim -- 420
Chris Stroud -- 421
Craig Lile -- 421
Parker McLachlin -- 421
Glen Day -- -421
Charlie Wi -- 421
Darron Stiles -- 421
Alex Cejka -- 422
Scott Gutschewski -- 422
Marco Dawson, -- 422
Brendon de Jonge -- 423
Chris Tidland -- 423
Michael Boyd -- 423
Michael Allen -- 423
Mark Wilson -- 424
Bob May -- 424
Jonathan Kaye -- 424
Steve Allan -- 424
Jason Schultz -- 424
D.J. Brigman -- 424
Kyle Reifers -- 424
Brian Bateman -- 424
Matt Hendrix -- 424
Dicky Pride -- 424
Michael Bradley -- 424
Jaco Van Zyl -- 424
Stankowski is back ! i liked this guy the first time i saw him play.Good on him,lets see if he can have a half decent year.That will give him about a mill or so lol...wow...that makes the PGA Tour sound easy :-S
He was criticizing the tour for having too many card-carrying members, what, 125 for 150 spots or so?, then when you calculate the sponsors exemptions, there's only a handful of spots to actually qualify for. He criticized that many get their card because they already have it and play bad enough they're on the bottom tier, but good enough to retain their card. He suggested the tour cut back to like 90 or so that have their PGA tour card and let their be a more generaous qualifying for the remaining 60 spots. Because even if you pass Q-school, it doesn't guarantee you get into a tournament unless the field is short that week. So if you can't get into a tournament, how are you supposed to win enough to make top 125 on the money list?
I have to agree with that 100%...Can you imagine you go to school, get a job, then be told, "sorry, we have enough employees this week, so you can't come to work"? On the PGA Tour, they EARNED their playing rights, they should be guaranteed a spot if they want to play that week. If not, open the spot for a qualifier or extra exemption.