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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:57 AM
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Play Off's

Why isn't there an adopted method introduced for play off's . Every country seems to vary. What do you think ? Set holes, sudden death, 18 hole play off or one hole over and over again. One option may be a closest to the pin from say 165 yards if time or light intervenes after players have completed a set number of holes.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:36 AM
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Different tournaments have different playoff formats. What's wrong with that? Is there a specific tournament playoff format you object to?
I heard that Card convinced the FedEx cup to introduce the BCS system in lieu of playoffs this year. Those who didn't make the cut will vote on which golfer had the best performance.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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I heard that Card convinced the FedEx cup to introduce the BCS system in lieu of playoffs this year. Those who didn't make the cut will vote on which golfer had the best performance.
That's the most ridiculous idea I've heard! I like the sudden death playoffs, they just appeal more to the viewer because he'll stay watching.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 09:10 PM
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That's the most ridiculous idea I've heard! I like the sudden death playoffs, they just appeal more to the viewer because he'll stay watching.
I'm glad we see eye-2-eye Not having a playoff makes for lots of criticism. hehe
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:59 PM
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Location more often than not will dictate the policy. An 18 hole playoff at the British Open would wreak havoc as far as getting people in and out of some remote links course with no nearby international airport. And for another day on the course, you have to pay for the whole production crew to be there and ask the volunteers for ANOTHER day of free work. The club membership will have to understand they don't get their course back on time, and an already over stuffed small town has to find a place for all those people (who have no rooms for Sunday night). Sudden death is the way to go because it's decisive and fair. It's not perfect, but at least we're not doing scorecard math or comparing random holes or god forbid a computer-generated winner based on statistical analysis.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 11:53 PM
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Why not? The tournament entry form said the champion would be determined over a 4 day stretch. The winner should have to beat everyone over those days... And I feel funny robbing the players, who stepped up in that kind of pressure on a Sunday, of their momentum and essentially bottled lightning and saying come back tomorrow, we need time to come up with new hole locations and move tv cameras around and sell more commercials, tickets, and merchandise. The 4 hole playoff is cool though. Otherwise Van de Velde may have made another 20 foot par putt on a sudden death playoff at Carnoustie. I'm always ready to adapt to keep those ************** from winning majors.

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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:12 AM
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Where does it say the US Open will be decided over four days? Everyone who enters knows the possibility of an 18 hole (or more) playoff and I seriously doubt anyone lucky enough to be involved in an 18 hole playoff would be complaining about it.
Well it says the dates on the Championship Entry Form. And if I'm Geoff Ogilvy I'd way rather make Phil march back to the 18th tee then shake it off and come back tomorrow. As a fan, I hate the idea of the back nine being pre-empted by The View or Days of Our Lives. We could just make the tournament 8 rounds instead of 4 if you want them to keep going forever.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:32 AM
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Cant go forever. After the first 18 hole playoff it goes to Sudden-Death. That's on the entry form too.
But why is sudden death ok at that point?
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:44 AM
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After 90 holes the first fighter to blink loses. I'm okay with that.
Ok, at that point we can cut and run :P And I don't care what the format is as long as it's not a cardoff. God I hate those.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:57 AM
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With a national title on the line I prefer the 18 hole playoff format used by the USGA but I also enjoy the 4 hole playoff used in the Open Championship. Sudden-Death is fine for regular tour events but Majors shouldn't be decided on one extra hole.
I personally find the 4 hole playoff the finest by far of all the options- in any tournament. For 2 reasons

After playing 72 holes, you hate seeing 1 hole decide an entire 4-day tournament with sudden death. It's kind of unfair to the loser that he or she doesn't get an opportunity at a 2nd hole (esp. if he loses birdie-par!)

18 holes of golf for 2 players is overkill- too many reasons to list here.

A 4 hole playoff is the fairest and best of both worlds. It's not looooong and if your down 1 or 2 strokes, you still have an opportunity. Not to mention it's the best for the fans. If they are still tied- then sudden death is appropiate. This of course, is only my
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:57 AM
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I heard that Card convinced the FedEx cup to introduce the BCS system in lieu of playoffs this year. Those who didn't make the cut will vote on which golfer had the best performance.
Yes, I did. Actually, I convinced them that the voting system we have now will be more than sufficient to determine POY. Also, we will be implementing the Sagarin rankings to create a brand new BGS (not to be confused with bowling-golf, a nightmare for leaguegolfs everywhere ). No more playoffs for any sport.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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Different tournaments have different playoff formats. What's wrong with that? Is there a specific tournament playoff format you object to?
The recently concluded Australian PGA had a play off which involved only the 18th hole. It's a great hole with great viewing but it is a TRUE par 4 where it is almost impossible (or stupid!) to attack the pin. Therefore each player is hoping to drain a 25/35 foot putt. Now this play off would have gone on and on except Nick O'Hern produced a stroke of genius (or luck!) and holed a 35 foot downhill bunker shot. This play off was proving to be a bit monotonous to the novice viewer but of course great viewing to a golf nut. Timing is the issue here due to light and TV commitments. I would prefer some variation in the holes with a commitments par 3 or par 5 included. If after 4 holes maybe a closest to the pin should be considered..... only a thought.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 11:22 AM
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Yes, I did. Actually, I convinced them that the voting system we have now will be more than sufficient to determine POY. Also, we will be implementing the Sagarin rankings to create a brand new BGS (not to be confused with bowling-golf, a nightmare for leaguegolfs everywhere ). No more playoffs for any sport.
May determine POY, but can U imagine if they voted on winner based on performance over past few holes? Better shoot well down the stretch! haha
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Old December 15th, 2006, 04:50 PM
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I don't like the players playing 18 over and over as well because if it's a par 5 it'll suit Tiger/Ernie/VJ rather than Funk/Durant.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 07:52 PM
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I don't like the players playing 18 over and over as well because if it's a par 5 it'll suit Tiger/Ernie/VJ rather than Funk/Durant.
Agreed there. I think playing the 18th first makes sense, but then they should go back to a different hole.
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