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Old January 29th, 2007, 11:15 PM
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I strongly disagree....every interview I've seen with Phil since the US Open 'debacle', every interviewer has gone back and asked that question...I can just see Phil in an interview thinking "ok, when is he/she going to ask that same ******* question?" (i.e., "How will you recover since that disastrous 18th hole and how does it affect your play in the future"....I must have heard him asked something like this no less than 10 times already).

Perhaps more appropriately:
He probably could forget it, if the media were to ever allow him to.

I wonder how shy/cool Greg Norman is with the media regarding the history that has followed him ever since his disastrous closing holes in about 4-5 tournaments (some that he could do nothing about....Larry Mize in that purplish/lavender shirt chipping in from off the green).

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This is the big pile of nonsense. Everything that happend at the US Open is media hyped, Phil forgot about it 8 months ago. One mess-up at a major is not going to shake Phil's confidence, if anything it will motivate him more. As to elevating his game, he went to Rick Smith and Dave Pelz 3 years ago to do just that, and he has stuck with it and it has payed off. He is also started weight training last season for the first time. Two bad finishes out of the gate is not typical for Phil, but its completely irrelevant when trying to predict long-term results.

Maybe if Phil missed every cut on the West Coast swing I would be concerned, but drawing conclusions the way you and others are doing is completely wreckless.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 07:45 AM
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Lovemark Changing of the guard

I followed Omeara, Lefty and Lovemark on Sunday. The kid has some very serious game. Within one year he will be better than Lefty.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 08:07 AM
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...there is no player that has more preparation for Major Championships than Phil...
I think there's one player with more preparation...
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Old January 30th, 2007, 02:41 PM
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I think there's one player with more preparation...
The guy who has won the last two majors!
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Old January 31st, 2007, 01:51 PM
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The guy who has won the last two majors!
Phil shows up to play the courses months ahead of time. He also practices from various spots on each green. He goes through strategy with Rick Smith and Dave Pelz on every hole.

Tiger just sits at home then shows up, plays a practice round as usual. It should be clear to anyone not living under a rock that Phil puts in more preperation, meaning he puts more effort and time into practicing, and also gives more thought to course strategy.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 03:20 PM
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And you know this to be true....how? I don't live under a rock, but I also don't have rocks for brains to think that Tiger "just sits at home then shows up" or how anyone not privy to both player's practice and preparation schedules can post what you just did.
I don't know what Tiger's routine is for preparing for a major, but it is well known that Phil does just what was described in the previous post. He focuses on the majors and spends months preparing for them. I'm sure a Tiger fan or Nike Rep can give more information about Tiger's preparation for majors, but it's hard to imagine someone putting more thought and preparation into a major than Phil has the past few years. It almost seems like those 4 tournaments are the only ones he cares about anymore.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 03:21 PM
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It was well-documented that Tiger has gone to major sites ahead of time... Bethpage, Valhalla and Medinah come to mind.

It is also well-documented that Tiger practices certain types of shots to prepare for certain majors and course conditions. When he was in college, he would practice on rainy days to prepare for the British Open. Prior to the Masters, he plays higher iron shots at regular tour stops, just to get used to landing the ball softly. He takes higher lines on his putts to practice dying the ball into the hole on the slick, undulating Augusta greens.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 03:33 PM
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It was well-documented that Tiger has gone to major sites ahead of time... Bethpage, Valhalla and Medinah come to mind.

It is also well-documented that Tiger practices certain types of shots to prepare for certain majors and course conditions. When he was in college, he would practice on rainy days to prepare for the British Open. Prior to the Masters, he plays higher iron shots at regular tour stops, just to get used to landing the ball softly. He takes higher lines on his putts to practice dying the ball into the hole on the slick, undulating Augusta greens.
I have heard him talk about purposely playing shots that would be needed in upcoming majors, in weeks prior, even when those shots aren't necessarily his best option.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 02:54 PM
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It was well-documented that Tiger has gone to major sites ahead of time... Bethpage, Valhalla and Medinah come to mind.

It is also well-documented that Tiger practices certain types of shots to prepare for certain majors and course conditions. When he was in college, he would practice on rainy days to prepare for the British Open. Prior to the Masters, he plays higher iron shots at regular tour stops, just to get used to landing the ball softly. He takes higher lines on his putts to practice dying the ball into the hole on the slick, undulating Augusta greens.
Maybe Phil was taking a page out of Tiger's book on how to win a major... It worked.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Phil shows up to play the courses months ahead of time. He also practices from various spots on each green. He goes through strategy with Rick Smith and Dave Pelz on every hole.

Tiger just sits at home then shows up, plays a practice round as usual. It should be clear to anyone not living under a rock that Phil puts in more preperation, meaning he puts more effort and time into practicing, and also gives more thought to course strategy.
That's not true at all. Tiger will usually get a pratice round in at the U.S. Open AND PGA Championship venues well in advance of the event. In fact Tiger played a practice round at Pinehurst in 2005 WITH PHIL. It's a known fact that last year Tiger played a practice round in at Medinah in July. In fact, one guy either here on one of the other golf forums I frequent actually posted how he caddied from somebody who completed a practice round with Tiger.

If Phil gives so much thought to course strategy then explain his debacle at the 18th hole at Winged Foot? He only needed par to win, a fairway wood or long iron off the tee would have been the SMART PLAY. He struggled with the driver all day, yet he felt on overpowering urge to hit driver. Conversely Tiger was able to win the British Open last year without hardly every using his driver. So much for Phil giving more thought to course strategy.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 03:45 PM
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And he continues to stuggle in the FBR with a bogie-laden first round (T-2nd in # bogies category....not a good stat)....argghhh.....Phil, what are you doing?

On golf channel the other day, there was an old clip of Vijay doing one of those tips from the pro's deals during some tournament.....a guy from the crowd asks "can you show us how to draw the drive from right to left?" Vijay responds laughing, you want to learn how to hit it crooked?....do you hit is straight?....what's wrong with hitting it straight?....I know a lot of pro's who would love to simply 'hit it straight', lol.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM
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...If Phil gives so much thought to course strategy then explain his debacle at the 18th hole at Winged Foot? He only needed par to win, a fairway wood or long iron off the tee would have been the SMART PLAY. He struggled with the driver all day, yet he felt on overpowering urge to hit driver. Conversely Tiger was able to win the British Open last year without hardly every using his driver. So much for Phil giving more thought to course strategy.
Knowing what you're supposed to do and doing it are 2 very different things as Phil has proved time and time again.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 05:55 PM
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Hey yo Nike cant you get fired for bashing Wie lol!
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