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Hmmm I don't know about all this. Golf courses of today are significantly tougher/longer than courses of yesteryear.

I'm the first to say that Jack is the all time best, but this is just ridiculous. To say that Tiger is not even on the scale is just stupid. Technology has changed the game, but not the short game, which is where he has really distanced himself from the field. I think some players today who rely on the bomb and gouge would not make it with wooden clubs, but I think Tiger could adapt to just about any equipment. After all, he learned how to make Nike clubs work, didn't he?

JK

he needs to stop whining..
he expects us to stop time and play w/ these wooden clubs?
its ridiculus.
if he calls it "CHEATING" using such advanced clubs.. well, i dont see anyone on tour using some old wooden clubs made back in the 50's ..

everyone uses em.. its not like steroids... cuz its not illegal to use these clubs. these guys use PGAtour regulation clubs.

if steroids were legal in baseball, it can be compared but its not.

so.. arnie and jack are both greatest players in golf. equipments should not be an issue. people get use to what they used. if tiger were to play in the 50 60's im sure he would have no problem using the more primitive irons. (he probalby break couple shafts along way) other than that.. Tiger's advantage is his Mechanics and Strength. not his equipments.. and same goes for Palmer, Nicklaus, and rest of the older players

I think the claims are so ridiculous that he automatically loses all credibility.

I agree.

This nonsense has been debated since the beginning of sports on this planet. The correct answer is: A good athlete/champion from any time period in the past, would be a good athlete/champion today, and the same holds true in reverse. You compete in your time period, using the technology, techniques, and equipment available at that time. The best players win. Period! If Bobby Jones was on the tour today, he'd be winning. If Tiger was on the tour in 1955, he would have dominated, just as he does today.

What if Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods all played in the same era? They were all the dominant players in their era but something would have to give with them all playing together, right?

I think the universe would explode if that were to happen.

Too...much...TALENT!

yes they are longer but i dont know about tougher, the golf courses are longer because the modern day golfer hits the ball longer. The courses the pros play on are also set up where bunkers arent a hazard, fairways are so perfect, the greens are perfect. 80% of the time when a player hits it in the rough the ball sets up and its actually an easier shot. I think tiger in that era with those clubs would have been at the top of the list of players but Jack still takes the wins.

Stupid because not only does this disrespect Tiger Woods, it also disrespects all of the players on the PGA tour; If Tiger is not even a 1+ then what is everyone else? If Arnie and Jack are 9+, then what were their contemporaries? It's just a stupid comment without much thought.

Ha. I like this answer.

I don't think the "courses are longer and tougher" argument works. First of all, they have to be longer due to newer equipment and much better better balls.

When I was a single digit handicapper, I remember wondering how I would stack up with the pros decades ago with my new technology. I didn't think I would do great but my perception was that courses back then were short and that my new technology would give me a distance advantage. Then I saw one of those "old" replays on Golf Channel and found out courses weren't that short.

Sure, they're longer today but how much longer do players hit the ball due to new equipment. Also, how much easier is it to stop the ball on the green due to the grooves on clubs these days. Don't forget that greens roll much truer these days.

It depends on how far back you go. I love to watch the old black and white golf shows, and Sam Snead used to hit his drives about 250. That's a long iron today, and the courses seemed to be about 6400 yards or so. Your point about the greens rolling truer now is definetely true, but I don't know about it being easier to stop a ball now. The greens were longer in the past, and balls in the 80's spun more than modern ones do.

that's true. those balata balls spun a lot. then again, a lot of those guys would hit long irons into greens while the guys today will hit mid or even short irons in.

Looks like the technology hasn't helped him.

I'm sure hes just upset over not making the Buick Open. LOL

The greens are much faster today though. I heard somewhere that a stimp reading back in the day was in the single digits and not necessarily high single digits.

In my mind, it's about 6 of one and half dozen of the other.