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Old March 2nd, 2008, 01:29 AM
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Re: Ryder Cup 2008

yeah, the ryder cup is definitely my favorite event. and assuming i don't move out of the area where i live now, after this year the next 3 u.s. ryder cups will be within 4 hours of my house. i can pretty much guaruntee i will be at all of them for at least one day.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 07:33 AM
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Azinger is on the right track with total revamping the points. However, there's some things I will look for in this event.

1. Will he decide to pick rookies as his captain's picks? Given their past perfromances, I think experience is overrated for the Americans. Give me rookies who aren't used to losing the Ryder Cup!

2. Will it be the American team or Tiger's team? Hal Sutton and Tom Lehman put the focus on Tiger. Tiger can help the team. However, the U.S. can mathematically win if Tiger and (even) Phil get shut out. If Tiger and Phil each win 5 matches, we still can lose. It has to be a team effort. Note Nicklaus never mentioned the President's Cup as Tiger's team.

3. Their Friday morning matchup. The U.S. has led off with Tiger the past few years and failed miserably on opening day. Note Nicklaus had Tiger in the final match of the opening slate of matches for the President's Cup. I think Azinger should do the same. I believe it will help the rest of the teammates focus on their matches.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 07:36 AM
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The main ways I see the U.S. winning are if

1. Azinger thinks outside the box as I mentioned earlier.

2. We have a bunch of rookies who aren't used to losing. President's Cup doesn't count, so Woody and Steve S. would be fine.

3. Europe has a bunch of rookies. Experience counts in their case. Their players are used to winning.

I hope Justin Leonard and Jim Furyk don't qualify. If Phil doesn't make it on points, don't pick him either. Unfortunately, Tiger will make it on points.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 08:34 AM
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3. Europe has a bunch of rookies. Experience counts in their case. Their players are used to winning.
1 Lee Westwood
2 Justin Rose
3 Henrik Stenson
4 Nick Dougherty
5 Martin Kaymer
6 Steve Webster
7 Robert Karlsson
8 Soren Hansen
9 Soren Kjeldsen
10 Miguel Angel Jimenez


That is the current euro team with 2 picks to added they would take america easy again,we want to win americans want paid to play in it,the Europeans dont bow down to tigger either unlike his fellow countrymen,we will win i dont doubt it for a minute.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Actually, the Americans don't want to get paid. The was talk of that several cups ago, but it's never come up again.....and I think the Americans DO care and they DO wanna win.
One of the issues with the USA team is that they play one of these events each year. It's either The Ryder cup or The Presidents Cup and both are very demanding. I imagine it can be hard to get fired up for the event when you have to play one every year.
If you hadn't noticed, it wasn't until The Presidents Cup became a regular thing that the USA started losing The Ryder Cup.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 02:29 PM
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Re: Ryder Cup 2008

I'm pulling for hometown golfer Joe Durant to make the squad. He would have played six years ago, but fell short when 9/11 delayed the competition.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 03:20 PM
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I'm pulling for hometown golfer Joe Durant to make the squad. He would have played six years ago, but fell short when 9/11 delayed the competition.
I didn't think 9/11 changed the teams at all. They just pushed back the matches one year.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 03:22 PM
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Actually, the Americans don't want to get paid. The was talk of that several cups ago, but it's never come up again.....and I think the Americans DO care and they DO wanna win.

I agree. I think it is they depend too much now on the performance of Tiger and Phil.

One of the issues with the USA team is that they play one of these events each year. It's either The Ryder cup or The Presidents Cup and both are very demanding. I imagine it can be hard to get fired up for the event when you have to play one every year.
If you hadn't noticed, it wasn't until The Presidents Cup became a regular thing that the USA started losing The Ryder Cup.
There's some truth in this. However, we began losing the Ryder Cup in 1985. I also think allowing the Europeans easy access to the PGA tour via the WGC events has strengthened their team some as well.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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The Ryder Cup will be staying in Europe where it belongs,dont see anything in the American team that is anything to worry about,and before you all start saying Tiger,Phil etc are higher ranked in the world rankings,it has never done them any good in previous years,We will win AGAIN.
I'm going have to disagree.

1. Home field advantage this time.

2. No Darren Clarke, No McGinley, no Ollie,, Monty will have to be a captain's pick.

3.I bet you have a bunch of rookies and will most likely get your clocks cleaned this time around.

4. the US beat the internationals which have a way stronger team,( on paper anyway).

Sorry dude the Euro reign is over.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:49 PM
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1 Lee Westwood
2 Justin Rose
3 Henrik Stenson
4 Nick Dougherty
5 Martin Kaymer
6 Steve Webster
7 Robert Karlsson
8 Soren Hansen
9 Soren Kjeldsen
10 Miguel Angel Jimenez


That is the current euro team with 2 picks to added they would take america easy again,we want to win americans want paid to play in it,the Europeans dont bow down to tigger either unlike his fellow countrymen,we will win i dont doubt it for a minute.
I see a lot of rookies and soft swedes on your list.....
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Old March 7th, 2008, 02:44 AM
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I hope Justin Leonard and Jim Furyk don't qualify. If Phil doesn't make it on points, don't pick him either.
I think Justin Leonard and Jim Furyk actually care about the Ryder Cup. Phil is another story.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:16 AM
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I'm going have to disagree.

1. Home field advantage this time.

2. No Darren Clarke, No McGinley, no Ollie,, Monty will have to be a captain's pick.

3.I bet you have a bunch of rookies and will most likely get your clocks cleaned this time around.

4. the US beat the internationals which have a way stronger team,( on paper anyway).

Sorry dude the Euro reign is over.
1. So did Hal Suttons alleged 'team'

2. We have strength in depth, Poulter,Rose,Jiminez

3. History has shown Euro rookies perform better than american

4. Its not played on paper,the american team is always considered to be stronger,not done them much good has it,Euro win again easily.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 09:57 PM
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I think Justin Leonard and Jim Furyk actually care about the Ryder Cup. Phil is another story.
I don't doubt that Furyk and Leonard care, but their Ryder Cup records stink for one reason or another.

Since Phil won a major, the Ryder Cup hasn't seemed quite as important to him.

Also, I wonder how important it is to Tiger.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:03 PM
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1. So did Hal Suttons alleged 'team'

2. We have strength in depth, Poulter,Rose,Jiminez

3. History has shown Euro rookies perform better than american

4. Its not played on paper,the american team is always considered to be stronger,not done them much good has it,Euro win again easily.
My feeling is the more rookies each team has, the better chance we have.

Right now, I may be happy with a moral victory (12.5 or more points for the U.S.).

I think a lot depends on how Azinger arranges his Friday morning lineups and how much he emphasizes Tiger beofre the matches.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:37 AM
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Re: Ryder Cup 2008

Westwood looks in good form at the moment. As Daren Clarke seems to be struggling with his game and does not look like he will qualify, I wonder who will be paired with Lee. The result will be closer than you think my US fiends.....
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