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Old July 22nd, 2004, 11:29 AM
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Phil Mickelson - Short clubs...?

Been meaning to ask this for a few days now but kept forgetting!

Watching the British Open last weekend didn't it seem that Phil Mickelsons clubs are really short or is he just a small chap?

I noticed the putter seemed to be the shortest.

Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 11:34 AM
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im not sure about all of phil's clubs, but i do know his putter is shorter than standard. i was told once it was 29" long! dont think thats true though, its probably more like 31/32 inches.
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 11:40 AM
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Yep i just couldn't believe how short it was!

It works good for him though eh bud! ;)
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 11:43 AM
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definately does, his game has fairly taken shape over this year
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 12:46 PM
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I am pretty sure Phil uses a 31" putter.
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 12:47 PM
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yeah thats what i thought. cant remember where i heard it was 29", but thats tiny.
31" sounds more realistic
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:53 PM
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I think I read somewhere that Phil believes in dropping his hands down, with no bend in his elbows, for putting. This is a pretty popular practice among good putters. It eliminates one more variable from the putting stroke (keeping the elbow angle the same throughout the stroke).

Sure works for him.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 08:55 AM
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Phil's putter is 31 inches. I putt with a 31" putter myself, and it helps keep my arms straight through the entire putt. It has helped alot. The draw back is restoring the swingweight to the putter when you cut it that short. Takes alot of lead to get the balance back.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 09:00 AM
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Phil's putter is 31 inches. I putt with a 31" putter myself, and it helps keep my arms straight through the entire putt. It has helped alot. The draw back is restoring the swingweight to the putter when you cut it that short. Takes alot of lead to get the balance back.
ForgedRbest - you seem to have a lot of knowledge on clubmaking, maybe you can help answer a question.

I shortened my 2-ball putter by about two inches 36 to 33/34. Does it need to have weight added? If so, where would the proper spot be? In the cavities under the club?

Also, the stock putters of different shaft lengths - are they all weighted different? E.g., I tried a 34" 2-ball and a 36" 2-ball putter before I purchased the 36" model, does Odyssey weight them differently from the factory?

Thanks for any info.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 09:09 AM
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ForgedRbest - you seem to have a lot of knowledge on clubmaking, maybe you can help answer a question.

I shortened my 2-ball putter by about two inches 36 to 33/34. Does it need to have weight added? If so, where would the proper spot be? In the cavities under the club?

Also, the stock putters of different shaft lengths - are they all weighted different? E.g., I tried a 34" 2-ball and a 36" 2-ball putter before I purchased the 36" model, does Odyssey weight them differently from the factory?

Thanks for any info.
Yes they do weight them different from the factory, based on length. Ideally a putter should fall between a C6 and a D4 swingweight. For every 1 inch of shaft that you cut off you lower the swingweight by approx. 6 weights. If I can i put lead down the shaft and use lead tape. The best place to put lead tape is in the area of the head where it won't interfer with the motion of the club, i.e. drag the ground, and where it won't interfer with your sight. Sight being if ugly tape bugs you it will mess with your mind and your putting. When weighting a putter make sure to distribute the weight evenly so as not to make the putter to toe heavy or heal heavy as this will affect the path of the ball on off center hits. Lastly the importance of getting your putter weight up is this, fast greens heavy putter and slow greens it doesn't make that much difference. Hope this helps.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 09:30 AM
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Yes they do weight them different from the factory, based on length. Ideally a putter should fall between a C6 and a D4 swingweight. For every 1 inch of shaft that you cut off you lower the swingweight by approx. 6 weights. If I can i put lead down the shaft and use lead tape. The best place to put lead tape is in the area of the head where it won't interfer with the motion of the club, i.e. drag the ground, and where it won't interfer with your sight. Sight being if ugly tape bugs you it will mess with your mind and your putting. When weighting a putter make sure to distribute the weight evenly so as not to make the putter to toe heavy or heal heavy as this will affect the path of the ball on off center hits. Lastly the importance of getting your putter weight up is this, fast greens heavy putter and slow greens it doesn't make that much difference. Hope this helps.
Thanks - appreciate the info.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 09:34 AM
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No problem, let me know how the putter works out. By the way, I bring all of my cut down putters back to D4. I like them heavy.
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